To put it simply, just as most men do not respect women who casually and easily give away intimacy, most women don't respect men who casually and easily give away their exclusitivity and commitment. I don't know if it's ever ben stated that way on here before, but that is the way I've been looking at the concept of AFC.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
What AFCism is essentially
- Thread starter ketostix
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
The AFC is really a guy who doesnt understand himself. Doesnt understand women. Doesnt understand attraction. Doesnt have his Values and Identity. Settles for anything. And tolerates low class behavior from women.He presents women with "gifts" instead of HIM SELF. He feels inadequate. And is often uncomfortable with displays of Masculinity. He is often uncomfortable with sexual women, and women's sexuality in general.
He is insecure. Seeks approval and validation. And many either hate women or look at women as perfect "Angels". He has an immature perspective on relationships. He is in Love with 'Love' and over romanticizes Love.
He is so attached to the validation and approval of women, that he allows himself to be a doormat and cannot walk away until pushed beyond his breaking point.
He is insecure. Seeks approval and validation. And many either hate women or look at women as perfect "Angels". He has an immature perspective on relationships. He is in Love with 'Love' and over romanticizes Love.
He is so attached to the validation and approval of women, that he allows himself to be a doormat and cannot walk away until pushed beyond his breaking point.
I'd say we are in agreement of what AFCism is fundamentally. It centers around offering a woman exclusitivity before she's earned it. You went into good detail. I was just trying to reduce it to the most reduced version.Rollo Tomassi said:
I'd say this is most guys. That was a good list of qualities an AFC can have. I actually don't believe a person can or needs to fix everything internally and be perfect first to get girls. He just has to put on an appearance that is good enough and positive results will be a postive feedback loop. I was just getting at what essentially is being a AFC from a woman's perspective is.Interceptor said:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
ketostix said:
I agree. A guy doesn't need to fix anything to get a girl. Getting the girl is only the beginning and the easy part. The true test is in how you deal with them without melting into some needy, insecure and stunted male who has not built a solid foundation in himself to weather the onslaught of today's women of the Matrix.
An AFC is a slave to the Matrix and women can sense it in a heartbeat and many use them like a parasite to feed their own stunted maturity. The Matrix has evolved for women to devour AFCs who have not given a second thought to what anything means. Essentially, an AFC from a woman's perspective is a slave to her whims and is not the master of his domain. Cheers!