To put it simply, just as most men do not respect women who casually and easily give away intimacy, most women don't respect men who casually and easily give away their exclusitivity and commitment. I don't know if it's ever ben stated that way on here before, but that is the way I've been looking at the concept of AFC.
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
What AFCism is essentially
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Interceptor
Master Don Juan
The AFC is really a guy who doesnt understand himself. Doesnt understand women. Doesnt understand attraction. Doesnt have his Values and Identity. Settles for anything. And tolerates low class behavior from women.He presents women with "gifts" instead of HIM SELF. He feels inadequate. And is often uncomfortable with displays of Masculinity. He is often uncomfortable with sexual women, and women's sexuality in general.
He is insecure. Seeks approval and validation. And many either hate women or look at women as perfect "Angels". He has an immature perspective on relationships. He is in Love with 'Love' and over romanticizes Love.
He is so attached to the validation and approval of women, that he allows himself to be a doormat and cannot walk away until pushed beyond his breaking point.
He is insecure. Seeks approval and validation. And many either hate women or look at women as perfect "Angels". He has an immature perspective on relationships. He is in Love with 'Love' and over romanticizes Love.
He is so attached to the validation and approval of women, that he allows himself to be a doormat and cannot walk away until pushed beyond his breaking point.
I'd say we are in agreement of what AFCism is fundamentally. It centers around offering a woman exclusitivity before she's earned it. You went into good detail. I was just trying to reduce it to the most reduced version.Rollo Tomassi said:
I'd say this is most guys. That was a good list of qualities an AFC can have. I actually don't believe a person can or needs to fix everything internally and be perfect first to get girls. He just has to put on an appearance that is good enough and positive results will be a postive feedback loop. I was just getting at what essentially is being a AFC from a woman's perspective is.Interceptor said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
ketostix said:
I agree. A guy doesn't need to fix anything to get a girl. Getting the girl is only the beginning and the easy part. The true test is in how you deal with them without melting into some needy, insecure and stunted male who has not built a solid foundation in himself to weather the onslaught of today's women of the Matrix.
An AFC is a slave to the Matrix and women can sense it in a heartbeat and many use them like a parasite to feed their own stunted maturity. The Matrix has evolved for women to devour AFCs who have not given a second thought to what anything means. Essentially, an AFC from a woman's perspective is a slave to her whims and is not the master of his domain. Cheers!