Eternal_water
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a 23 year old virgin with a social circle of 1 friend?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Bro I'm going to go out on a limb here and say get laid somehow, any which way, fast.Eternal_water said:a 23 year old virgin with a social circle of 1 friend?
Trump said:Bro I'm going to go out on a limb here and say get laid somehow, any which way, fast.
To join clubs, improve yourself, study, workout, and forget about girls is all nice and good but you will still get hot and bothered if you don't get the result, when you see others with their girlfriends you will get agitated and annoyed. You can know salsa dance, be ripped, learn guitar, make a lot of money and 3 years later you will still be in same position that you are now. You have to pay someone, go on vacation and get some, just do something to get this black cloud over your head.
The girls will not come flock to you because you have improved yourself. They could care less. They only care how you make them feel at that moment. If you don't know how to properly turn on their emotions at that moment, you won't get anywhere.
I'll say why I think you two are off the mark on this one. The OP made explicit reference to having 1 friend. That implies there is a much deeper problem than just not being able to get laid. It alludes to a lack of social skills, which even by getting laid won't really solve anything. He gets laid once, then is back to square 1 again only this time he's tasted what he wants but can't get it regularly, which will be just as frustrating. This is what I think the whole community is lacking in, they sort of want to stick a "completed" sticker on everything, the guys got laid once, big woop but he still only has one friend and has no idea how to do it again. Besides telling a guy who has never had sex to just go on holiday and bang some chick sounds easy but judging by his history it probably won't happen...and who is he going to even go with?Mike32ct said:^This. I'm with Trump 100%.
Forgetting about girls and doing other stuff generally won't get you laid. If you want to get laid, you have to focus on finding a way to get laid.
I'm all for learning dance or other languages or musical instruments or any other constructive hobby. But that stuff is for YOU not women.
OP: Do you still work at that nightclub?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Ya I never understood why people say to us guys to forget about getting a girlfriend or getting laid, because if we want that we have to be the ones to make it happen, girls are usually the passive sexMike32ct said:^This. I'm with Trump 100%.
Forgetting about girls and doing other stuff generally won't get you laid. If you want to get laid, you have to focus on finding a way to get laid.
I'm all for learning dance or other languages or musical instruments or any other constructive hobby. But that stuff is for YOU not women.
OP: Do you still work at that nightclub?
Eternal_water said:Mike32ct, yes I still work at the club and I get some fortunate accidents there that I don't often know how they happened apart from drunk girls being drunk. Last week a girl wanted her friend to take a photo of her kissing me (I didn't object as you can imagine). It didn't stop after the photo, it was a full on make out with tongues that lasted a good 45 seconds or so. Then her friend wanted to join in, so then I did the same thing with her. Then kissed the first girl again. (Then their friends dragged them away before I could try and get a number, not that I would have known quite what to say). So yeah, enjoying that job!
There MUST be attraction for a makeout. Even the most drunk chick would have to be attracted to do that. You obviously have the look, OP. I wouldn't worry about that.Eternal_water said:By the way, would girls act like this with a guy if they weren't even just a tiny bit attracted to him? Or if they were drunk enough would they do this with someone they weren't remotely attracted to?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.