Eternal_water
Master Don Juan
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a 23 year old virgin with a social circle of 1 friend?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Bro I'm going to go out on a limb here and say get laid somehow, any which way, fast.Eternal_water said:a 23 year old virgin with a social circle of 1 friend?
Trump said:Bro I'm going to go out on a limb here and say get laid somehow, any which way, fast.
To join clubs, improve yourself, study, workout, and forget about girls is all nice and good but you will still get hot and bothered if you don't get the result, when you see others with their girlfriends you will get agitated and annoyed. You can know salsa dance, be ripped, learn guitar, make a lot of money and 3 years later you will still be in same position that you are now. You have to pay someone, go on vacation and get some, just do something to get this black cloud over your head.
The girls will not come flock to you because you have improved yourself. They could care less. They only care how you make them feel at that moment. If you don't know how to properly turn on their emotions at that moment, you won't get anywhere.
I'll say why I think you two are off the mark on this one. The OP made explicit reference to having 1 friend. That implies there is a much deeper problem than just not being able to get laid. It alludes to a lack of social skills, which even by getting laid won't really solve anything. He gets laid once, then is back to square 1 again only this time he's tasted what he wants but can't get it regularly, which will be just as frustrating. This is what I think the whole community is lacking in, they sort of want to stick a "completed" sticker on everything, the guys got laid once, big woop but he still only has one friend and has no idea how to do it again. Besides telling a guy who has never had sex to just go on holiday and bang some chick sounds easy but judging by his history it probably won't happen...and who is he going to even go with?Mike32ct said:^This. I'm with Trump 100%.
Forgetting about girls and doing other stuff generally won't get you laid. If you want to get laid, you have to focus on finding a way to get laid.
I'm all for learning dance or other languages or musical instruments or any other constructive hobby. But that stuff is for YOU not women.
OP: Do you still work at that nightclub?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Ya I never understood why people say to us guys to forget about getting a girlfriend or getting laid, because if we want that we have to be the ones to make it happen, girls are usually the passive sexMike32ct said:^This. I'm with Trump 100%.
Forgetting about girls and doing other stuff generally won't get you laid. If you want to get laid, you have to focus on finding a way to get laid.
I'm all for learning dance or other languages or musical instruments or any other constructive hobby. But that stuff is for YOU not women.
OP: Do you still work at that nightclub?
Eternal_water said:Mike32ct, yes I still work at the club and I get some fortunate accidents there that I don't often know how they happened apart from drunk girls being drunk. Last week a girl wanted her friend to take a photo of her kissing me (I didn't object as you can imagine). It didn't stop after the photo, it was a full on make out with tongues that lasted a good 45 seconds or so. Then her friend wanted to join in, so then I did the same thing with her. Then kissed the first girl again. (Then their friends dragged them away before I could try and get a number, not that I would have known quite what to say). So yeah, enjoying that job!
There MUST be attraction for a makeout. Even the most drunk chick would have to be attracted to do that. You obviously have the look, OP. I wouldn't worry about that.Eternal_water said:By the way, would girls act like this with a guy if they weren't even just a tiny bit attracted to him? Or if they were drunk enough would they do this with someone they weren't remotely attracted to?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.