What about the 'elevation' of men beyond traditionalism.

[kavi]

I'm figuring all this out. Its simple.

Traditionalism: It was a SYSTEM. We can say it had good points bad points whatever.

When we came out of traditionalism and into the modern world, it was primarily females who adapted first.

Men basically remained the same, thinking they are some guy from 1800s in some village. While women were learning adapting and changing according to the modern world.

But men hadnt changed.

I mean just look at how much women changed, adapted from trad to the modern world, but men are still the same. So we are like dinosours, our attitudes, ideas, mindsets ltierally havent changed from 'traditionalism'.

This is why the world is falling apart, why things are so sh1t out there. We havent adapted to the changing landscape.

One thing we have to do stop being losers, stop putting p$ssy on a pedestals, stop trying to use money to get women etc. For men we cannot be in a mindset that we live in a tough world where only the strongest survive, like some village guy from 1800s, we gotta be in a mindset that we live in a CIVILIZATION.

 

[RazorRambo24]

The whole pretense of your post is started on a fallacy that men have not changed.. thats absurd. How do you not see how men have changed?

This isn't Pakistan or Middle East where men have remained much of the same and the masculinity and masculine roles havent shifted too much. In the western world, men have changed drastically.. Evne taken on roles of stay at home dads, nurses, and things that were uncommon in the past. Men have become more emotional than ever and more involved in topics related to female empowerment and things they were not involved in before. Men have also shifted from many of them no longer being the bread winner in the family.

 

[zekko]

When we came out of traditionalism and into the modern world, it was primarily females who adapted first.

Well of course, because much of the breaking of traditionalism was designed to benefit the female, and address their grievances. There is little to none of breaking with traditionalism that has been put into place to benefit men. What men have done is give up their gender roles, without having anything to replace it. Unless it is to become drag queens, I suppose.

Men have become more emotional than ever and more involved in topics related to female empowerment and things they were not involved in before. Men have also shifted from many of them no longer being the bread winner in the family.

What's worse, is that many men are no longer capable of being the break winner in the family, or the head of the household.

 

[Jaxus]

It’s not that men haven’t adapted to the modern world while women have, it’s that modern society caters to women yet still places expectations upon men. The entire female gender role was deemed “offensive” in the 21st century, and the 20th century gave women the same rights as men without any of the responsibilities. Coupling this with the women-are-wonderful effect dictates women are to be completely catered to. This means women can have the rights & privileges of both genders without the responsibilities of either; and men are to carry the burden of responsibility of both in their stead.

In other words, men still have to fulfill their gender role while women do not. This is the real dynamic you are witnessing.