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As far as when to text, I'm actually in agreement with most here. Keep it minimal. There might be this urge to reach out because you might want her to know that you are invested. So far, this has never worked for me and it doesn't seem to have worked for other's as well. I can tell by your writing style, that you and I both are not short on words. Personally, I also think that this kills a potential situation. Anytime I've written longer e-mails, it backfires. Keep this in mind.

I'm not advising that you play anything up which isn't true, but at the same time, I also wouldn't speak too much about your limited options. I'd also keep contact limited because being too available will not look attractive to her.

From what you've described about her, I'll offer a positive. She's seeing a therapist. That is an indication that she is wanting to self-improve.

Most women over thirty are going to have some issues. If she mentions that she's always dating the "wrong type" of men, keep this in mind. If there's a pattern, she's not a victim. She is choosing these characteristics. If that's the case, don't waste your time or self-respect trying to emulate.

Last thing, the more you think about her, the more invested you'll become. While on the surface, you might think that she'll appreciate this, the outcome is usually not so favorable.

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From my point of view, behavior and background is as important as their looks.
And this is why social circle game is way better because you have lots more info on the women before making a move.

Would rather date a women with a good head on her shoulder and decent look than a hot crazy attention *****.
That's the thing. Meeting someone via mutual friends, work, school, or anywhere in person for that matter is better. You at least have somewhat of an idea what their personality and quirks are like and in a way know what you're getting into. With online you just don't know and girls who are very chatty and flirty in texting can turn out to be boring and dull in person.

These OLD women though just seem different. All have some kind of issues going on. The one I went out with on Sat though I did like her personality when she started to loosen her guard and was more friendly and outgoing except for airing out all her baggage. Seems like a decent person but a lot of personal issues going on. The only thing I wasn't a big fan of was she goes on a ton of match dates. Like she can't make a commitment and having troubles finding someone. She is very busy because she has a ton of class work to do. I believe it. But I saw her on match a lot today though. I'm sure she will go on a couple dates this week. She ordered one of the more expensive items too. I think it's true many of these women use online dating to get free stuff from guys like me.

I noticed a couple new early 20s girls on match today within 50 miles. I think I will message them and give it a spin. I noticed those young ones look a lot looser and fun in their profiles. Like drinking and having fun and stuff.
 

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Actually, mutational loading (birth defects) are mostly a function of a guy's age. This is because sperm replicates by making copies of prior sperm. Eventually, the copying process starts to degrade and the effect on sperm DNA becomes exponential with age. The inflection point in the birth defect data occurs at about age 35, on average.

In contrast, a woman's eggs simply become unviable as she ages. She doesn't get new eggs, they already exist. There really isn't much DNA degradation.
That sounds like feminist propaganda to me, but I would be happy to look at your source.


Advanced maternal age is associated with adverse reproductive effects such as increased risk of infertility,[4] and that the children have chromosomal abnormalities.[5]The corresponding paternal age effect is less pronounced.[6][7]
 
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That sounds like feminist propaganda to me, but I would be happy to look at your source.


Advanced maternal age is associated with adverse reproductive effects such as increased risk of infertility,[4] and that the children have chromosomal abnormalities.[5]The corresponding paternal age effect is less pronounced.[6][7]

Sorry but there is a correlation between age and sperm quality. But men are definitely able to produce healthier children for longer than women.
 

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OP, it seems to me that you are placing being accepted by mediocre women above whether or not YOU are attracted to them and consider them worthy.

In other words, you are putting yourself in a position where you will continue dating her if you are certain she accepts you. This leaves her in complete control of the situation and hence control of you.

Regarding this 7, are you attracted to her character? If so, create a plan and tell her you’d like her to accompany you to xyz. If not, you need to let her go and fish other waters.

Women crave a man who has options, and who comes across as someone they can look up to; someone they need to work to win over. You should come across as undecided about any individual woman you date.

If you think you’re coming across to them with an “I’ll go out with you if you accept me” vibe, you would do well to consider projecting a reserved, but friendly “You need to prove yourself worthy of me” vibe. The man who does this is her unicorn.

You’d be surprised how the dating life changes when you convey unmistakably that YOU are qualifying HER; not the other way around.

A matter-of-fact comment about how your previous match dates didn’t qualify immediately flips the script and disrupts her game. Suddenly she is put in the position of being expected to qualify herself to you.

Be a rare, almost non-existent unicorn. It’s fun, and women can’t comprehend what is happening if you comport yourself as a King who is looking for a woman who qualifies to be in his his kingdom.

At first you will fear turning them off. You will find that the worthy, classy ones will value you and work to impress you. The few who are offended are the dregs.

Life is paradox. Flip the script as instructed above and your entire life will change. You will never again wonder if a certain girl likes you.
 
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^^what @Atom Smasher said

It is uncomfortable to lead, but only for awhile, then you get used to it
 
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