Went on a date with that HB7 from Match today.

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She claims she doesn't have time hence why she uses OLD and said she met her ex husband on match.
But if she doesn't have the time, then where does she get the time to meet so many guys from OLD to the point that waiters from Applebees know her so well that you both avoided going there?
 
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I texted her today to see how she was doing with all the school work and new students. Very busy and they added more students to her on line class she is teaching.

Anyway, since she hasn't ghosted me and still replies should I see if she texts me at all over the next couple days? If she does I know she has some interest in me and should I then ask for a second date?
 

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Like I said she was very polite to me though. Just if whenever she talked it was about her brother issues, abuse issues, her ex and all the dates shes been on lately and about not making enough as a teacher. It was like I could have played the role of Dr. Phil.
It sounds like you've been friendzoned by her. That means you are on the therapist/friend ladder category.

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Is that therapy for these women and they want someone to simply complain to and be able to gush their emotions to someone?
Yes, someone they see like a brother to them (no pun intended), like you.

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Then latest night she made her profile inactive then this morning made it active again. She had a lot of school work though so maybe she didnt want guys bombarding her. She put it back up now.
You filled her emotional needs. Now she's looking for a Chadlite to fill her sexual needs. If you were a real prospect with her then she wouldn't go back on the service. You are doing what I did a decade ago. Stalk women online to see when they are active or not and GUESS what they are doing in the background. You have a oneitis on her while she's being pumped and dumped by other guys that is unsociable or rude with her (but she's attracted to). You are the nice guy to cut their slack for her emotionally but you end up with blue balls with the likes of her. Not relationship material. You need to stop obsessing about her. She won't talk about her brother to a Chad.
 

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She told me today her account was hacked and showed me some of the weird messages they sent out with it.

Anyway, if we go out on a second date should I up the physical contact like hold hands and after the date try making our or a kiss depending on location?
 

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She told me today her account was hacked and showed me some of the weird messages they sent out with it.

Anyway, if we go out on a second date should I up the physical contact like hold hands and after the date try making our or a kiss depending on location?
Why don't you worry about setting up the second date first before worrying about all of these things. You might be jinxing yourself by writing about this to strangers and worrying like that. Just let it flow naturally.

Try putting your hands on the table and she if she puts her hands on the table and itch it towards hers. See if you can hold hands over the table while talking to her. You are one with her and she is one with you and feel comfortable with her. See how long you can hold hands over a table without feeling uncomfortable and seeing time pass by together at the place.

For kisses, think of a romantic location somewhere nearby and itch your face close to hers and see how she is. Depends how comfortable she is with you. Maybe try going on a nature date (i.e. take her to a park and sit on a bench and then lean in to kiss there). Just creatively plan it out so that it seems natural. You are trying to create a romantic mood where something like that feels like it's happening at the moment.
 
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Why don't you worry about setting up the second date first before worrying about all of these things. You might be jinxing yourself by writing about this to strangers and worrying like that. Just let it flow naturally.

Try putting your hands on the table and she if she puts her hands on the table and itch it towards hers. See if you can hold hands over the table while talking to her. You are one with her and she is one with you and feel comfortable with her. See how long you can hold hands over a table without feeling uncomfortable and seeing time pass by together at the place.

For kisses, think of a romantic location somewhere nearby and itch your face close to hers and see how she is. Depends how comfortable she is with you. Maybe try going on a nature date (i.e. take her to a park and sit on a bench and then lean in to kiss there). Just creatively plan it out so that it seems natural. You are trying to create a romantic mood where something like that feels like it's happening at the moment.
Sounds good. I dont want crapplebees for a second date. The first date park thing doing geocaching would been perfect if it hadn't it been so rainy lately and roads were not flooded. Would be a good fun second date because the second park was pretty secluded and not many people would been around. More romantic to makeout possibly.
 

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When she was talking about her match account being hacked I should have said something like "well, that's okay because you don't need to use match anymore." I just didn't think about that at the time. Could have been a great line.
 

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Arrgh. Can't read this anymore. Can't you at least skim the DJ Bible. Unless you really are daddy warbucks and enjoy buying these broken chicks dinner as a social contribution.
 

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Oh and she never drinks. She said shes never been drunk in her life. The other teacher didnt drink as well. So are they considered boring to many guys because they dont drink?
 

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will biggoal ask for a kiss or get another order of apple bees chicken tendies. Find out on the next episode of..The Incel Diaries.
 
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will biggoal ask for a kiss or get another order of apple bees chicken tendies. Find out on the next episode of..The Incel Diaries.
We didn't go to crapplebees that was the date she went on the night before. Typically she goes to crapplebees for first dates she said.
 

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Oh and she never drinks. She said shes never been drunk in her life. The other teacher didnt drink as well. So are they considered boring to many guys because they dont drink?
I am almost certain that if she doesn't drink it's certainly not because she has never been drunk before and far more likely because she's an alcoholic or a sloppy drunk or an angry drunk or a slvtty drunk.

But yeah it does sound pretty boring to date a girl who won't party or make alcohol influenced bad decisions
 

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I am almost certain that if she doesn't drink it's certainly not because she has never been drunk before and far more likely because she's an alcoholic or a sloppy drunk or an angry drunk or a slvtty drunk.

But yeah it does sound pretty boring to date a girl who won't party or make alcohol influenced bad decisions
Just sent her a text. Asking her today was and if she wanted to go out this sat. No reply. Yet sat and Sunday she was talking to me though. She goes on a lot of match dates to crapplebees. Probably found someone else. Cost me 43 bucks for nothing.
 

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Just sent her a text. Asking her today was and if she wanted to go out this sat. No reply. Yet sat and Sunday she was talking to me though. She goes on a lot of match dates to crapplebees. Probably found someone else. Cost me 43 bucks for nothing.
Are you BigDave?
 
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Just sent her a text. Asking her today was and if she wanted to go out this sat. No reply. Yet sat and Sunday she was talking to me though. She goes on a lot of match dates to crapplebees. Probably found someone else. Cost me 43 bucks for nothing.
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Hes richard the frog/rick the toad/big dave/whatever other alt account
Richard the frog would've been my second guess, but I don't think BigDave is Richard. And Rick is too lucid from what I've seen to be either of them, his name is def a parody of Richard though.
 

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RichardtheFrog would not waste time on civvies like that as he's a hardcore escortcel and any woman he does meet it's from Seeking Arrangements because he's too cynical that you can get access to a nice girl without shelling some money. BigDave has standards. He would not be seeing a white lady with that type of baggage, and would only be seeing tan-skinned people from Armenia or Latin America.

No, the OP has no standards to go after a woman of the likes of her but it goes to prove my black-pill cynicism about online dating; the SMV gap is disgusting to the point it is dysfunctional for a good guy to meet someone decent and have a classic boy meets girl scenario online that develops nicely as a friendship over time. This is just textbook black-pill right now.
 

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Yet sat and Sunday she was talking to me though. She goes on a lot of match dates to crapplebees. Probably found someone else. Cost me 43 bucks for nothing.
Since you don't meet many woman then that doesn't mean anything to you. If you had 10 dates then that would be $ 430? Guess you do fine not to meet too many woman if you are shelling like that. I have a "stupid budget" of $ 50 so $ 43 wouldn't matter to me because it's below the daily "stupid" budget. Cut yourself some slack and have a stupid budget too and allow yourself to make mistakes now and then.

In all my first dates either the lady paid for me, or if I paid, it was a cheap coffee date. The focus should be on the lady and if there is chemistry / potential, not pandering to a professional dater. You also broke an unspoken cardinal rule here. You don't spend money on a first date because the first meeting is not really a date, it is just a warm meeting with no strings attached for any subsequent meeting. Normally women LOSE attraction when they meet you IRL from online. You also stalked her online so if she's aware of that then you look too desperate as well. Why would she tell you that some hacker got to her online account unless you asked her about her being online?

First date rules:
1) Meet for coffee or make sure she pays
2) Make sure the meeting is not longer than 30 minutes and end the date at a high note, don't wait for her to get bored with you or end the date first.

Also, didn't I tell you that unless you have a SECOND DATE, you have NOTHING? Right now you have nothing until she SHOWS UP to a second date. Nobody on here can help you get SECOND dates. All people can do is help your profile to get more hits, at best, but it's a fact of life that there is a crazy numbers game involved in getting that second date and you have to knock her dead impress her to get that second to work out. You are not at the level so it's best to manage your expectations and learn how to get the first meeting right so you make an impression that sticks.
 
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