"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hahah thanks for the compliment. :p I don't know if you've read my intro. But I had no girls or even friend that are girls my whole life until last August and I'm 19 yrs old now. I think that plays a role to motivate me. :box:

For tips, I recommend you to go out there with a friend. He/she can help you be in a fun mood plus if you screwed up at least you got someone to laugh with. *Warning: Gotta make sure that person is encouraging, I've experienced wings who tried to discouraged me in the past.* :kick: Also, the feeling of one good approach can overcome 2 or 3 approaches. So you should not give up after the bad approach. The bad approaches usually outnumber the good ones but the good ones are more worth it. Because the one that rejected you are usually girls who got a bf, they're not interested or they're just materialistic. I'm sure you don't want to invite those girls in your life. :nono:

I agree/disagree with you about the opener. Complimenting something about her looks is more unique than trying to hide it. Seriously, how many guys or even friends of your told you to not show disinterest in the girl and be a jerk. Plenty!!! How ironic since those guys are the one that usually don't get laid. Even my friend who know nothing about seduction told me to not comment on her look. And to make sure, he's not good with girls either. Girls spend hours trying to look good so a guy can act disinterest in her? No!:cuss: But I do agree with you on that same opening line. I'm sick of it sometimes because it seem more like a memorized line. Think of Mystery Method but more direct. But what's so great about these memorized lines are the fact that they helped my anxiety to decreases when I approach a girl plus it's also genuine. Thinking of what to say while dealing with that feeling inside my body is hard sometimes. I might add something here and there to the opener as my approach anxiety decrease later on but the elements will still be there(my desire, interest, and intention for her.) I guess you still want to know why I prefer to use openers that related to her look.....simple.....BECAUSE THAT IS ALL I SEE from her. Simple as that, might be harsh but that's the truth. Most guys prefer looks. Now, I can just say "Hi, what book do you recommend?" :whistle: It will still come down to her thinking "Why is he asking me? There are workers here." You can just tell her right there that you think she's pretty or lied and say "I'm just looking for something good to read and you seem like a good reader." From my experienced, most girls usually feel comfortable and more outgoing after you tell her why. Because she knows you could be hosting some MTV shows and trying to play a prank on her. Either way is good to open to a girl. But I prefer direct because the reasons are that it save me time, money and help me conquer the fear of being rejected. I've had bad experiences with some girls before when I was using DYD, MM and Juggler Method. DYD and MM taught to not show interest in girls and thus, girls only thought I just wanna be friends and never told me they have a bf or married(which happens before. I ended up thinking about her for weeks just to find out she was married.) Juggler Method taught me to be genuinely interested in a girl but it never taught me to tell her my intention so the girls end up thinking I just want to stick around and talk with them. I've wasted so many time using Juggler Method because the girls thought I really wanted to sit there and listen to problems with their boyfriend but the real reason I wanna fvck the sh*t out of her. Even when I finally tell them I find them *sexy* they would just gave me a wierd look. You can check my old posts in the other threads if you want to see me do DYD, MM and Juggler.

Ever since I started Direct, I begin to have more times to spare and feel more confident because unlike most guys, I told her outright that I find her attractive. I lay my cards down and now it's up to the girl to decide. If the girl is interested in you then she will respond in a good way. :rockon: From there on you know you're in. But if she walks away, tell you she got a boyfriend or not interested. You just save yourself some precious times my friend. :moon: What I've learned is no matter how good you are in the seduction game, if the girl have no interest in you there is nothing you can do about it to make her become interest in you. You have to learn to let it go. I'm still learning too. Direct can be a little risky sometimes. But "the biggest risk is not taking a risk."

Creepy? hahah of course not. Now.....if you walked around and she notice you doing that but you still not approach her, then that's creepy. :whistle: You're doing your job and that's being the selector. Of course some will think you're creepy. But I only had that happen to me once and the girl was just average in my book.

Wow...this is long. I hope it help you some way on your journey. If not, at least READ IT! :cuss: But remember, every method works. It's how you do it. I just like being direct, that's it.

*note* I add in the smiley face to make you stay awake.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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June 25, 2007: Time to pump some iron!!!

I came home from the mall and stayed home for a few hours until it time to workout. There is this hot girl who work at the gym and I've been wanting to talk to her but was afraid to screw up. So I go in there, worked on my chest, shoulders, and triceps. As usual, I would finished up the workout with some abs exercise. As I'm about to reach second floor of the gym.....look who it is. Yes! It's the gym girl. This was unexpected for me since I don't see coming here at this time. I acted like I didn't see her and go straight to the abs bench. Everything would be easy if there weren't 5 other guys on there staring at her booty and her girl friend working out with her. They went down stairs after a few minutes and I can see myself regret for not doing anything. I went down stair and into the locker room to wash my face hoping she would still be there. Luckily she didn't leave, I saw her at the leg press with her friend. I was still nervous so I went to the threadmill section and acted like I'm watching TV. Her friend went to a different machine so that leave her by herself. This is a good chance for me, so I walked up to her..........she walked away form the machine went to a different one, I had to catch up to her. Hahah I felt like a stalker. She finally stopped......
Greenlake: Hey, is your name Brittany?
*She gave me a curious look.*
Brit: Yeah....
Greenlake: Brittany, you look great in that outfit.
*She gave me a shock look and smile.*
Brit: Thanks!
Greenlake: I haven't seen you in awhile.
Brit: Yea, let see...I didn't worked last Friday....I worked Monday, Wednesday...
Greenlake: Dang, you work a lot. You must be rich
Brit: no.
Greenlake: Saving up for your wedding? *I was gonna say our wedding*
Brit: hahah no.
Greenlake: I already saved up for mine.
Brit: Hahah really? you're young tho.
Greenlake: How old do you think I am?
Brit: Hmm....20?
Greenlake: No, you're close tho. I'm 19. How about you?
Brit: I'm older than that.
Greenlake: Really? How old? *I'm scared she was gonna say 24.*
Brit: 19
Greenlake: Hahah ok. What school do you go to?
Brit: I don't go to school.
Greenlake: Damn, you got to. *Again, I was gonna say "so you can get to see me more."*
Brit: Yea, I know.
Greenlake: Yea, go to HCC.
Brit: Is that where you go to?
Greenlake: Yea. It pretty fun there.
Brit: Yea, I might go next year.
Greenlake: Well, it was nice talking to you. I gotta go tho.
Brit: Oh ok, you too.
Greenlake: Bye.
Brit: Bye.
I turned around and walked away. A smile started to appeared on my lips. I can't even control it. I'm so proud of myself. The smile gotten bigger as I got into my car. If you see me you would think I'm the "Joker." I felt great, I finally got the courage to walked up to her. This girl is more special to me than any other girls. She would be the only girl I considered to have as a girlfriend. So I really put a lot of emphasize on this and I'm glad I did it. Plus the fact that it would be arkward if I screw up since she work at the gym and I would see her a lot. :rock:
 

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You did good. Let her get your attention next. It is imperative.
 

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June 26, 2007: Mall

Tuesday was fun. I got an appointment with two of my friends(we'll call them Chan and Le.) at the mall. One(Chan) of them got a date and got there before us. Hahah sneaky guy, we didn't even know about it until he drove her back and came back to meet us. even though he is an AFC, he's one of the guy I like to sarge with because of the fact he's an encouraging guy. On the other hand, my other friend is one negative b*tch(Le). He can't stop talking about negative stuff and argue about stuff that tried to put me down. Sorry bud, my mind ain't that easy to infiltrate anymore. So the Le told me he is hungry when we got there. We went to the food court and we told Chan to meet us there. :cuss:

Food Court
While I sat there waiting with Le. Le pointed out one girl outside that worked at a stand that he finds hot. Without hesitating, I stand up and walk to her. This is a good warm up and show Le that I'm not the old Ha he used to know. As I got closer her I told myself "is he blind? She's not hot." but I went anyway.
Greenlake: Hey, you're pretty.
Girl: Thanks.
Greenlake: What's your name?
Girl: Laura, you?
Greenlake: Ha.
*Shake hand, I observed what she was selling.*
Greenlake: Earrings....you got any for guys?
Laura: Yea, for ears, lips, eyes.....
Greenlake: Nipples?
Laura: Hahah yea.
Greenlake: You have any of them on you?
*shock*
Laura: Hahah no.
Greenlake: So how long have you been working here?
Laura: A few weeks. My friend own this stand. But he went on vaction.
GreenlakE: Ahh, friends with benefit.
Laura: Hahah no, he got another employee who work here.
Greenlake: I bet you must be his favorite since you look sexy.
Laura: hahah no.
Greenlake: Well, i run out of things to say. It was nice meeting you.
Laura: Yea it was nice meeting you too.
*Shake hands*
I walked back to my friend, that was pretty good for a warm up don't you think? Hahah. Le was just speechless btw. :cheer:

Okay it took Chan a while so Le and I decided to walk around instead. While walking I saw two Asian girls from the back. I jokingly told Le "Hey, there are two Asian girls over there. Why don't you be my wing and take care of one of them for me." Know what that b*tch says? "Nahh, look at them. They're probably married and plus they look old." Hahah I just laugh and kept walking toward them while leaving Le in the dust. I finally caught up to the girl and tried to get in front of them.
Greenlake: Hi, ya guys are pretty. What's ur name? (Dang, I was wrong. They're not hot.)
*I reach out my hand to the one on the right. Both girls just gave me a startle look. I kept my hand out waiting for them to shake it until finally they did.*
Greenlake: What's your name?
right: Linda.
Greenlake: How aobut you?
*Looking at the girl on the left*
left: Linda.
*I was shock*
Greenlake: Really?
*They both laugh*
Both: Yeah.
Greenlake: You guys are wierd....
*They both walked away and I walked back to Le.* ;)

Okay, we finally met up with Chan and I didn't approach any girls while hanging with the two of them. There was some pretty girls too...talking about regrets. Well...before we left the mall, I told Le I must approach one more girl before we leave and I already got my eyes on this pretty Asian girls. So me and Le walked in front of her. It would seem wierd if I turn around and approach her. So I walked slower until we got to the door. I hold it for her and she says "thanks." So now she is in front of me, good chance to approach her. So I walked up to her and touch her arm....
Greenlake: Hi, what's your name?
*She gave me a curious look*
pretty: Why?
Greenlake: Cause I think you're pretty.
pretty: Ohh thanks. *smile*
Greenlake: So, now tell me your name.
pretty: hmm....why?
Greenlake: I just told you why. So tell me.
pretty: Why?
(Hahah this girl, trying to play mind game iwth me. Too bad I got no patient for this plus I took that as a rejection at that moment.)
I told her "Okay" and walked away, showing her I don't care. :moon: I felt great after this. Not only did I was not affected by the rejection and I also confidently walked away showing her that I'm not needy.

Okay guys....come back tomorrow for more.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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June 28, 2007: Target

Target
After a full a day off on Wednesday just staying home made me felt an urge to go out and talk to some chicks. I was kinda tired of the mall so I went to Target this time. There were a lot of hot chicks the last time I was here with family a few months ago. Hoping there will be some fine chicks on a Thursday. I was kinda disappointed when I got there. All I see was mid-age women with their kids.....not until 10 minutes walking around did I spot some hot chicks. I saw a cashier who was pretty hot at first, but approach anxiety got the controlled over me. So I just told myself to walk around a bit and come back to her later since she works here. After a few minutes, I spotted a hot white brunette coming in. I followed her and walked around the locations near her for around 5 minutes. I felt a little creepy doing this. This is not mode one hahah. Finally, I got the urged to walk up to her, she saw me and thought I was just passing through and pushed the cart away. But no, I stand there and looked at her..
Greenlake: Hi, i think you're pretty.
*She smiles*
girl: Thanks!
Greenlake: What is your name?
girl: Valorie, you?
Greenlake: Ha.
*She stand there waiting for me to say something.*
Greenlake: So...would Thursday or is it Friday that you prefer me to pick u up? :flowers:
*She smiles and didn't hesitate to say*
girl: I'm married. :p
Greenlake: oh really, it's nice to meet you. :cry:
girl: nice to meet you too.
There is nothing left for me to pursue here. So i walked away feeling proud of myself. I find this approach funny because it was unexpected. She look young and I can sense attraction from her....from a married woman.

Okay, finally I got some confidence boost in me. So I went back to the cashier. There she is, standing in one of the lane. She saw me coming toward her direction and walks toward me.
Greenlake: Hey.
girl: Hi
Greenlake: you're SEXY! (Hahah I don't know why, it just popped up out of no where.)
*She gave me a "not again" look, walked passed me and faced the other way. I turn around and stand in front of her.*
Greenlake: Do you have a boyfriend?
girl: I'm married. (Not again......)
Greenlake: Really, you don't look that old.
girl: i'm 24.
Greenlake: Okay, what's your name?
girl: Maria.
greenlake: Nice meeting you.
girl: bye.
That approach was just weird. Her 3 co-workers must have heard it too and they were laughing when I walked off. Need to push my ego aside...
I officially announced "Target is a place for married women." :mad:

Gym *IMPORTANT*
So I left Target after one hour looking for girls. I went to my gym to take of some business and look who working today. Yup, it's the "gym" girl Brit with another female co-worker. We look at eachother and smile. I stand at the counter waiting to be serve. Unfortunately, her female co-worker went up and help me, not her. I was kinda disappointed .......well I need to learn the unexpected. So I got everything taken care of after a few minutes. It pretty hard for me to get her number when there were her co-worker there. so I chatted with the personal trainer and sat down for a bit. Finally the moment came, her co-worker went somewhere and that leave her by herself. I walked up to her....she notice me.
Greenlake: Hi.
Brit: Hi!
*She looked back down to the money she was counting. I stand in front of her, only the counter separate us apart. I stand there waiting for her look at me again for a few sec. But she didn't. I felt kinda down since she didn't payed me much attention.*
Greenlake: So what is your schedule like?
Brit: I will get a week off next week, today will be my last day.
*Still counting the money in the register.* (Golddigger? hahah, that really what I asked myself at that moment.) :rolleyes:
Greenlake: Great! Give me your number.
*Great! I got her attention. She looked up at me with a shock face and smile.*
Brit: Sorry buddy, I'm not that easy.
*She look at me, expecting me to say something. But I didn't. I just gave her a "that's okay." face.*
Brit: We have to get to know each other first. But at least you're attempting it.
GreenlakE: Yea, I rather telling you now.
Brit: Yea.
GreenlakE: That's okay tho.
*I turned around anmd walked away...*
Brit: You're not working out today?
Greenlake: No.
Brit: Oh you're just taking care of the paperwork. (I can't really hear what she asked me, but i think this was the question. or it could be "sorry, i was just playing. would you fvck me plzzz??? hahah j/k.) :yes:
Greenlake: Alright, it was nice talking to you. I'll see you later.
Brit: Ok, bye.
I felt proud of myself at that moment. I didn't show her that I'm dissapointed or sad. I just walked out of the gym confidently with a smiled. I bet she was looking me when I walked out too. I havet o admit, if I didn't took action any longer, I might end up with a sever oneititis for this chick. Good thing I got it over with. She totally got me wrong, the reason I want her number was just like how she says "we have to get to know each other better." I didn't really want her for sex....well she got a big booty that I would love to bang. For some reason, I can't say those stuffs when I was there. Must be because I was nervous. But something is telling me she will pursue me later on. My job is done here, I lay my cards down. It's up to her.

Wal-Mart
I went to Walmart for some shopping afterward. I spotted a women who works there with a pretty face and a bubbly butt doing something at the cosmetic section. I saw her last time probably a few weeks ago but didn't got the gutz. So this time I went up to her and touch her on the arm from the side..
*she got shocked jumped. Another co-worker of standing next to her was laughing.* :kick:
Greenlake: Hey, you're pretty.
*She looks at me but didn't say anything.* (She probably didn't understand English well cause I heard her accent later on, got embarassed cause her co-worker laughs or she didn't heard me. Too late! Don't Care!)
Greenlake: So...you gonna help me with finding a good and cheap razer.
*She took me there and showed me one.*
Greenlake: Thiso ne is good?
girl: Yea.
Greenlake: Good for shaving your legs too?
girl: okay, thanks.
I didn't sense any interested from her, probably pissed so I let her go.

Well guys, that's it for today. Good luck to me!
 

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July 2, 2007: Mall

Friday: Gym
I'm so excited today since it's carbs reload day and that means I get to eat as much carbs as I want!!! Yay! I wasn't expecting to approach any girl today even tho I really wanted to see the gym girl Brit I talked to Thursday. But she wasn't there. I guess I'm falling in love with this girl...uh oh. Got to meet more girls. Anyway, a girl with hot bod came in after 15 minutes of my workout. Geehz, she made it hard for me to concentrate on my workout. But I remembered Alan says to have authority or it just an excuse for me cause of approach anxiety. So I decided to finished my workout before I approached her. I went to the locker room, washed my face and came out. There she was, working on a the stairmaster. Thank god no one is around or else i'll probably be more nervous. I took my key and walked to her...
Greenlake: Hey
*She took off her headphone*
girl: Hi.
Greenlake: You got a nice body. :woo:
girl: Thanks.
Greenlake: are you taken?
girl: huh? (probably didn't understand what I meant or I was talking too low....yea i was nervous.)
Greenlake: Do you have a boyfriend? (Seriously, I gotta stop asking girls these question. Seem weak to me. What do you guys think?)
girl: Yea.
Greenlake: Okay, nice meeting you.
Even tho this approach wasn't good. I felt proud of myself because I didn't care of the people surrounding me or even her think. (Hahah yea, I read the "egotistical indifference" section in Mode One book the night before.) I felt like a MAN!

July 2, 2007: Mall
Guys.........I think I have approach anxiety again. :unsure: I went to the mall yesterday and stayed there for 1 hour. No approach....NONE! Not giving up, I decided to go there again today....this time with a friend. I thought having a friend along would help me be in a fun mood. Boy i was I WRONG! He discourage me, made me wait for him to pick some clothes, and didn't approach any girl. But that was not the worse thing. the worse thing was that he told me he's hungry, so I say "kool." Guess what? His female friends came out of nowhere and we ended up sitting there for nearly 1 hour. These girls are hot! I chatted with some of them but I wasn't being myself, I was too nervous. Plus these girls piss me off, I don't if they're playing around or being serious. But they caught me at the wrong time and my friend didn't help at all. :( And I really pick wisely for a wing. Oh well. Lesson learned: If your friend want to stop or slow you down, just leave him. Okay, enough with the drama. Let's head on to the approach.

Abercrombie
I went in here to get my work schedule.....I got no day this week. But that's not the point, the point is my friend saw this cute Asian girl who works there. I told him to approach, but he says no. So as a good friend, I walked up to her and acted like I'm interested......
Greenlake: Hey, I think you're cute! (Gotta stop "think" word, it's a habit hahah.) :crackup:
girl: Thanks
Greenlake: what's your name?
girl: Mai, you?
GreenlakE: Ha
*We shake hand.*
Greenlake: how long have you been working here?
Mai: Not too long ago. I just move in a month ago?
Greenlake: You mean Tampa?
Mai: Yea.
Greenlake: Where were you orginally from?
Mai: Fort. Lauderdale.
Greenlake: ohhh...let us have a date and I'll show you around.
Mai: Ohh...sorry I have a boyfriend.
Greenlake: Oh that's kool. It nice meeting you then.
Mai: Nice meeting you too.
Good thing I brought the "date" thing up. I don't want to waste my time talking to a girl who have a boyfriend. I told my friend that and he thinks that she lied. She look pretty genuine when she told me that imo. Either she's great at acting or I really sux at acting because she's not my type.

Hollister
Okay, this one didn't take long for me to go up to....even tho I was waiting for this lady to move away farther from the girl but she never did. So I just went in anyway. I walked up to her while she was folding clothes and touch her on the arm from behind but she kinda saw me. She turns around and look at me.
Greenlake: You're pretty.
girl: Thanks
Greenlake: What's your name?
girl: Angelina, you?
Greenlake: Ha, nice meeting you.
*We shake hands*
Greenlake: Angelina, you got a boyfriend?
*Gave me a dissapointed look*
Angelina: Yes......sorry. :eek:
* I slowly walked backward...away from her.*
Greenlake: That's okay, it was nice meeting you tho.
Angelina: Yea, you too.
*She was still looking at me, but nothing I can do. So I just turned around feeling proud.*

My friend told me he would do one approach too. So when we got in Hollister, he pointed at the cashier and I say "great." i thought he was gonna approach her. Boy....was i wrong again. Yea, I ended up to be the one doing the work. :angry: Took me a while too since there was a few girls who was up there with her plus the customer. So my friend just got a shirt and went up there to pay for it. Later....he told me he bought the shirt just for her. WTF!!!!!! Btw, we got up to the counter.
girl: Hi
meandfriend: Hi.
girl: Would you like to buy these Hollister cologne?
friend: What? Are you telling me I smell bad?
*me and the girl laugh.*
......................tick tock tick tock.
greenlake: Hey, are you mixed?
girl: yea, i'm half white and asian.
Greenlake: What's your name?
girl: Jennifer.
Greenlake: Jennifer, you're pretty.
girl: Thanks
Greenlake: Okay, do I get discount for saying you're pretty?
girl: hahahah no i can't.
Greenlake: So what Asian are you?
girl: I'm half chinese and Italian.
GreenlakE: So....give me your last asian name.
girl: Oh, my dad is white.
Greenlake: oh.
*The payment was done*
girl: okay, thanks guys. have a nice day.
both: you too.
My friend can't stop drooling over her after we got out. So I just told him "Okay, i'm going in there to get her number." since he doesn't have the gutz to do it. He even told me "she's too good for us." *Sighz* Limiting belief....
Okay, so I got in there. She was taking careo f a customer. So I just stand there looking at the clothes nearby. Took awhile for her to finish... So I got in line. The women who was near my approach #2 earlier came from the dressing room and stand behind me. Then another of her co-worker and a guy who took care of the dressing room showed up....GREAT! hahah, let the whole world know my friend is a WUSS and I have to do it for him. She saw me and say "Hey." i walked up to her....
Greenlake: Damn, I was really nervous back there. Didn't even get a chance to tell you. We should hang out sometimes.
girl: Okay.
Greenlake: Great, give me your number.
*Uh oh....everybody looks at me hahah.* :wave:
girl:.....I have a boy...friend. ( You can tell she's lying or she's really bad at being real.)
Greenlake: Okay, that's all I need to know.
girl: Sorry....
I walked away feeling good even tho I got rejected. It's like a Samurai who got cut but proud of his scar. I smiled at the girl who stand in the front as I got out and she smiled back. Could have approach her.....but I wonder if they have a *wanted* list of guys who pick up girls at Hollister. Hahah j/k.
Lesson learned: Don't ever approach for your friend just because he's a wuss. :yes:

Have a nice day guys. Remember, don't give up.

Deus ex Pianoforte- Yea I agree with you, I need to close on the girls that's interested in me. btw, thanks for the comment. You don't know how much it motivate me. I wish you luck my friend.
 

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July 5, 2007: Mall

Approaching girls had never been so hard! I don't know what the reason is, could be because I'm sarging solo and most of the time I get a lot more approaches is when I'm with a friend. But why need a friend for this when they don't think like me, discourage me and slow me down. I don't know why I'm beginning to worried about the surrounding me. :angry:

Okay, I got it all out. :crazy: First of all, I gotta thanks my friend Steve aka "Sky" or "DonJosieCantosie" here for supporting me all the way through by texts. Thanks man.

The first approach doesn't take that long for me, the second one took me nearly 3 hours to be able to do it. If the first one turned out fine then I guess i wouldn't had struggle for hours. I got stop my ego play with my head.

Walden
After 15 minutes of walking around trying to push my anxiety down, I decided to walked in the bookstore. The lady who works there greet me and ask me if i need any help. I weakly say "no thanks you. I'm just looking around." DUDE! She totally beat the crap out of me. I can't even look at her eyes. Geehz......I dunno what happen to my confident. There must be something wrong here....could it be that I stopped doing my positive thinking for 15 minute every morning and night? or could it be that I didn't put myself in a social mood first and just went straight ahead to approaching girls. Okay......so I walked to the back of the store and saw this Asian girl.......kinda pretty. took me nearly a minute to walked around and gather my balls. But I finally did it. I walked up to her and lightly touch her right arm...
greenlake: Hi, I think you're pretty.
*She gave me a wierd look.*
girl: thanks.
*look back at the book she's reading.*
greenlake: What's your name?
girl: Lucy
greenlake: nice to meet you.
*reach out my hand and let it hanged for a few sec before she shake it.*
greenlake: Do you have a boyfriend?
girl: yes.
greenlake: Okay, nice to meet you.
*Gasp* AHHHHHH!!!! My own race rejected me! It's the end of the world my friend!!!! :eek:

I just walked around trying to fight my fear after that. My friend Steve tried to help me during these time. But it's all up to me to do it. I finally got frustrated after 2 hours of no approaches, so I told him I'm not gonna leave( which I had to) until i do atleast one approach. Boy....was my ego scared when it heard that.

Ruehl
Well.....this was the only store left that I didn't visit exceptfor some lingerie stores. :whistling: I walked in expecting some girl to greet me(they usually have girls) but this time it was a guy, and that was not the worst part. The worst part was that he rocked my hair, grr......so that's just unofficially made him my caucasian version. :lol: I went on the men side to look for girls but only guys....duh! So I went over to the women side. I saw two targets. One that works there and the other one is the customer. So I went for the customer first. She was with her friend btw, but her friend was acrossed the room. So I walked up to her and touch her arm....
greenlake: Hi, what's your name?
girl: kayla.
greenlake: kayla, I think you're pretty.
*she smile..*
girl: Thanks.
greenlake: so how about we hang out sometimes. :flowers:
*she smile*
girl: i'm not from here. I live in Minnesota. (NO! YOU're LYING!!!!)
*i gave her a "no way, you're serious?" look.*
greenlake: Really? What are you doing down here?
girl: visiting.
greenlake: Me?
girl: hahah, well it was nice meeting you. (Wait, i haven't say one night stand yet!) :multiplespotting:
greenlakE: Okay, nice to meet you too.
The other target probably saw me talking to her since she just in front of us.

So I walked around the store for a bit. I caught her looking at me. Finally she's by herself....not like it matter anyway since the music is loud, I walked up to her. She smile at me, i smile back....
greenlake: Hi, you're pretty.
girl: thanks
greenlake: What's your name?
girl: Erin
*I lean in closer.*
greenlake: huh? (What?who?Where?When?...)
girl: erin.
greenlake: Oh, it's nice meeting u.
*Shake hand*
greenlake: so erin, when's your break?
girl: Not in a while.
greenlake: do you have a boyfriend?
girl: yea
greenlake: Are you lying? :cool:
*nodding her head*
greenlake: Okay, nice meeting you then.

Forever 21
This place have nice, cheap clothes and deserted by guys since they think it's a girl's store and too embarrassed to go in. That's good, leave it all to me! btw, I was in line paying my clothes, two asian girls were in front of me. One was pretty cute too. Then another asian friend of them came and stand behind me. She was taller than the other one. Took me a few sec and I look at her....
greenlake; What's your name?
girl: uhhh...why?
greenlake: cause i think you're pretty. (DUH!!!)
girl: Okay, thanks...
*I looked at her and she looked at me.*
greenlake: Name....
girl: I got a boyfriend.
greenlake: So.... *shrug*
girl: *she says something, prob fvck me hahah j/k.*
greenlake: Okay....so are they your sisters?
girl: No, *she says something again*
Greenlake: Okay
*i turned around and notice her friends were listening. GREAT! Let the whole world know she's discriminate against her race!!! j/k.* :eek:

Well that's it for today guys...i think so. the approaches were bad but i'm not feeling anything. I know i would feel worse if i didn't approach any. Pretty good for a guy who didn't get much sleep last night eh? :p Geehz, my voice was so low earlier....
 

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Einsten once said

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Maybe you should drop the bf question or the 'you're pretty' statement, if only for a bit, and see how things progress with a different gameplan.

Good stuff with the confidence tho, you really seem to be steaming ahead, regardless of outcome. When you start layin b!tches left n right, I can't even imagine what you are gonna walk up and say to girls
 

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Okay, I've got to chime in here.

First, let me say that you should be incredibly proud of yourself for taking the steps necessary to improve not only your love life, but your life in general. Most guys just b-itch and complain about the lack of women in their lives, but yet never do anything to change that.

Now on to your approach technique. Flat out it SUCKS!!!! Actually its beyond sucking, its absolutely the WORST opener I've ever heard and will get you zero closes unless the girl is deaf, blind and handicapped. Now, before you disagree hear me out.

When you open with a compliment that isn't unique AND without any sort of rapport, it immediately sets you up to fail. Go back and read all your approaches; if you noticed, the best approach you had was when you didn't use the "your pretty" line. It was when you noticed your surroundings, and transitioned into your opener with the girl in the bookstore. This put her at ease and let the conversation flow naturally.

However, for whatever reason you keep shooting yourself in the foot with the "your pretty" line. Wanna know how a girl hears that line?? "I want to fuvk you." And that sends alarms ringing throughout her entire mind. Don't get me wrong, you might have made a handful of these girls feel really good about themselves, however you fail to create any crumb of rapport after this and then jump into your close. Its almost like watching the first five minutes of a movie, then seeing the ending. What about the story?? More than half of these girls are lying to you about having bf's. They're just trying to lay you down gently because your creeping them out with your approach.

Now if you re-frame your approach and keep the confidence, wit and humor; you'll be getting numbers, dates and more. In my opinion the best approach is observation. Yeah, that's right, just like you did in the bookstore. Notice something about the girl (other than her looks), maybe a funky braclet, a cool hairstyle, her clothing or something going on around you and use that to transition into your approach. That makes it seem a lot more natural and the conversation will flow so easily. I notice that you constantly run out of things to say, and this style would fix that issue. Your approach has to fit.

Lastly, walking up to girls from behind or from an angle where they can't see you first is a big no-no!! Kino is definitely important, but you don't want to be touching so soon in my opinion. That also brings out the creep-o-meter. Whatever happened to IOI??? Why don't you start making strong EC with these girls before you approach. This will tell you all you need to know. Make EC, smile and approach. Create some form of rapport and then use some kino.

The simple fact is your thinking waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much about this and making it a lot harder than it actually is in real life. Learn to become more perceptive and observe your surroundings and you'll never be at a loss for words when you want to approach.




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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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^^^I agree with what u first said about how Greenlake should be proud but for the 2nd part....
Sorry but i have to disagree with the crap of how u said its the worst opener...i consider it up there...most guys on here can't even do it.

The direct opener, doesn't matter as much as HOW u say it. Plus, he's working on getting through his anxiety and what better way than to flat out go up to her and put ur cards upfront more and more as time goes on?
If he finds a girl pretty...why not tell her? If he finds her sexy...why not tell her? If he finds her gorgeous....why not tell her?
Sure, he'll get rejected more at the start...but atleast he's not wasting time with a girl whom he thinks is interested when in fact she's taken and isn't really. Either that or getting a number and getting a flake not knowing why.

This is probably to help him get further and do the direct/upfront openers he wants..."You're pretty" is helping him...it can work when done the right way, and i believe he's doing it the right way...just that he's nervous when he's doing it. If you think amazing opening lines work alone, then u must be foolish. What so wonderful openers u had in mind? O:)

Its how u say it is most important...conveying to a girl that u find her "Attractive" which is what they truly want to hear with ultra, bold, confidence...why else would they be looking good otherwise? Cuz it fits good?

Pimp, i don't doubt that u prolly have got success...but i think u should open urself to other possibilities of game, not just what u've known to work for you.

But i do agree with the Boyfriend question coming up too early....sometimes one should ask a bit later but he's finding out the information he wants, if she is single or not.

Also, about him thinking too much....of course he's gonna think alot about it...he's getting through AA...think its that easy to not think about it? Thats actually lacking advice, as he'll be even MORE worried that he's thinking about it too much as it is. He's got to go through these feelings straight on to overcome them. Thats the only way he can truly be the confident womanizer he wants to be, if he tries to avoid that feeling...he'd be incomplete...it'd just come back when something goes wrong. Why not solve the core of the problem and then be at peace with it rather than trying to fully run away from it.

Keep it up Greenlake, impressed with ur guts...keep doing what ur doing!
 

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I forgot to mention, some women will not be interested/reject u fully no matter how smooth or charming u appear.
 

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IWillReturnsoon said:
^^^I agree with what u first said about how Greenlake should be proud but for the 2nd part....
Sorry but i have to disagree with the crap of how u said its the worst opener...i consider it up there...most guys on here can't even do it.

Your entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine but the proof is in the pudding. Greenlake hasn't closed one chick with that opener; (not a number, a date, a kiss, nothing) And I've lost track of how many girls he's approached over the past few weeks, but I'd venture to guess its atleast 30-40. I agree with you about most guys not being able to do it, but that's due to their fear of approaching women period, not which line they use.

The direct opener, doesn't matter as much as HOW u say it.

Ahhhhh....nice to hear recycled seduction e-book bullshyt being repeated back to me as if I've never heard it before. What you say is equally important to how you say it when you open a girl for THE FIRST TIME. After you've established a bit of rapport, then the percentages start to shift towards the "how you say it" category as opposed to what you say. In other words, if you've established value in a girl's eyes, you can say/do almost anything you want and get away with it.

Plus, he's working on getting through his anxiety and what better way than to flat out go up to her and put ur cards upfront more and more as time goes on?

Getting over approach anxiety definitely takes courage and determination, I already gave Greenlake major props for that. But there are MANY better ways to go about this then constantly being rejected. We are creatures who become socially conditioned as time passes by. Whether Greenlake admits it or not, he's use to being rejected. All I'm saying is why not change his opener and see if it changes his results?? Success multiples confidence quicker and more efficiently then anything else.

If he finds a girl pretty...why not tell her? If he finds her sexy...why not tell her? If he finds her gorgeous....why not tell her?

LOL....because he hasn't established any rapport with these women and it immediately puts their guard up. Look at some of the responses he's gotten after opening with the "pretty" line, then asking for her name. One girl immediately asked him why he wanted to know her name over and over. Another girl wouldn't even stop while he was trying to talk to her, and every other girl has told him they have a bf, which he even feels are lies by some of the girls.

Girls like to receive and hear compliments about their looks, clothing, style etc

Girls are ATTRACTED to the guys who take the time to notice something else about them other then the exterior or the obvious.


Sure, he'll get rejected more at the start...but atleast he's not wasting time with a girl whom he thinks is interested when in fact she's taken and isn't really. Either that or getting a number and getting a flake not knowing why.

I'll keep a close eye on this thread waiting to see a successful FR from Greenlake with the "your pretty" line. Sure its direct and straight to the point, but its too direct, too to the point where it creeps these girls out. Those are his words, not mine.

This is probably to help him get further and do the direct/upfront openers he wants..."You're pretty" is helping him...it can work when done the right way, and i believe he's doing it the right way...just that he's nervous when he's doing it. If you think amazing opening lines work alone, then u must be foolish. What so wonderful openers u had in mind? O:)

Did you even read my response? Lines are garbage (your pretty...garbage). Its much more effective to be unique, or transition your opener from your surroudings. I definitely believe that "your pretty" CAN work, but more times than not, that will be the case when a girl is ALREADY attracted to you, in which case you could have said anything and she would like it.

Its how u say it is most important...conveying to a girl that u find her "Attractive" which is what they truly want to hear with ultra, bold, confidence...why else would they be looking good otherwise? Cuz it fits good?

You have a lot to learn buddy. Girls want to FEEL emotionally attracted to you. They DO NOT want to hear "your pretty" "your sexy" "your gorgeous" as the first words that you say to them upon meeting them. I'll say it again, without RAPPORT, he'll go no where with this opener.

Pimp, i don't doubt that u prolly have got success...but i think u should open urself to other possibilities of game, not just what u've known to work for you.

I use many techinques, I've been in the game for a long time now. If I had only used one or two techniques this whole time then I would have lost a lot of opportunities.

But i do agree with the Boyfriend question coming up too early....sometimes one should ask a bit later but he's finding out the information he wants, if she is single or not.

Now your starting to see the light a bit. Its too fast!!! I'd even go as far as saying if he opened with something else to start, then talked to her about that for a minute or two, THEN said "you know what your really pretty" it would be A LOT more effective. Which goes back to my original point: RAPPORT RAPPORT RAPPORT. Your fuvked without it. If your good looking, you create a certain level of rapport without saying a word, its not fair but that's just the way it is. If your good looking and good at quickly creating rapport, you'll be unstoppable.

Also, about him thinking too much....of course he's gonna think alot about it...he's getting through AA...think its that easy to not think about it? Thats actually lacking advice, as he'll be even MORE worried that he's thinking about it too much as it is. He's got to go through these feelings straight on to overcome them. Thats the only way he can truly be the confident womanizer he wants to be, if he tries to avoid that feeling...he'd be incomplete...it'd just come back when something goes wrong. Why not solve the core of the problem and then be at peace with it rather than trying to fully run away from it.

Nothing wrong with a little bit of post approach analysis (what did I do good, what could I have done better); however thinking DURING the approach the way he is "what do I say next??" clearly is not good!! That's because he hasn't learned how to create and hold an effective conversation. Part of that has to due with being new to the game and the other part seems to be that he's putting all his eggs in one basket hoping the "your pretty" line will make a girl want him.

Keep it up Greenlake, impressed with ur guts...keep doing what ur doing!

I agree, your well on your way to improving yourself, all I'm saying is think about trying a new approach or at least opening with something else before you tell them the pretty line. I realize your doing this to get over your fear of approaching women, but your lying to yourself if your saying that's the only reason your doing it. You want to get laid and if you keep your current techinque that will not happen anytime soon.



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Beach, Mall, and Bookstore! Oh My!

July 6, 2007: Beach
My cousin invited me to go to the beach with him for some volleyball. We go there kinda early and waited for his friends. In front of the sand field is a bar. Me and my cousin sat there for awhile. On the right of his is two women, one is a hot blonde who i decided to approached later on. My cousin told me he going to the restroom. So I thought that would be a good chance to go up to them. It still took me a while to do it tho. But I did it anyway....
*I walked up to them. the blonde notice me and look at me with a smile.*
Greenlake: You look kool in that hat.( I did this one for you Pimp-sicle. You told me to compliment on her item, right?)
blonde: What?
*She can't hear me and ask that 2 more times until her friend told her."
blonde: Ohhh, thanks.
Greenlake: What's your name?
blonde: Kelly
greenlake: You?
friend: Vanessa
greenlake: So what are you girls doing here?
blonde: Nothing, just girl talk.
greenlake: What? girls talk without me?
*she laugh plus I notice my cousin coming back.*
blonde: Okay, it was nice meeting you.
greenlake: you too.
Yea it was short and her friend doesn't seem to like me. I felt kinda bad afterward which rarely happens. But I know i would felt worse if I didn't do it. My cousin came out of the restroom and ask me "what did those girls say to you?" I guess he didn't expect me to approach girls cause in his mind, i'm still a shy kid who stays home all the time. That's why he took me to the beach with him. Ohhh well, doesn't bother me. But overall, I had a great time at the beach.

July 8, 2007: Mall and Borders
I went with my friend to the mall today. Didn't expect to go with him since he's not helpful and i'm trying to sarge solo cause my bro took my car. but i did had a great time there even when he tried to put me down. But it didn't affect me this time. We saw two asian girls went up the escalator and he pointed it out. I told him to approach but he was too scared. So i went up the escalator and saw them in the tea shop. They left the store and I walked up to them.
greenlake: I saw you and I want to meet you.
target: okay....
They walked away.
I looked back and noticed my friend was gone. Then I saw him in the tea shop testing out some tea. wtf hahah...

We walked for a bit and he pointed out a Asian girl with her family. He dared me to do it. I see no loss in it but it good to warm up. So I went up to her. She thought I wanted to pass but I didn't, I just stand there.
Greenlake: Hey, I think you're pretty.
I don't understand whats she says, her family looked at me and I asked the lady "Are you her mom?" I think she says no. I see no point standing here, so I left and joined my friend.

Quilksilver
I saw a hot girl walked in there. So I told my friend to go in there. We did but I didn't had the gutz to approach her cause I thought she had a guy in her group. But turned out she didn't. I tried out a jacket and ask a girl who works there "how do i look" She gave me her comments and recommend me a size larger. She asks the guy who works there and he agree with her. I told her to buy for me since it's my birthday and she laughs. To make sure that I was joking, i told her "and it my birthday tomorrow too, so buy me ather one." she laughs. I didn't planned to escalate with this one.

Levi
We went in there and I noticed a pretty hot cashier who works there. I walked up to her and told her i like her hair. she told me where she got it. But I wasn't interested in that. I notice she got a superman tattoo in between her boobs. I should comment on that. But I didn't and let her go.

I notice a pretty sexy girl working at the stand later on. I walked up to her. She saw me and smile. I smiled back.
Greenlake: Hi, you're pretty.
girl: *something something* I have a bf.
greenlake: Okay, kool. bye.
I walked off feeling better than ever. This was the only approach I felt proud of myself so far.

Borders
My friend felt bad of himself after he saw me approaches girls. So I told him we should go to borders and he agreed. We got there, saw a Asian girl which he think was fob and went to the coffee place to get something to drink. The place was packed but there was only one Asian girl who caught my eyes. She was sitting next to the straws container. I stand there for at least a minute and finally convinced myself to do it. I walked up to her....
Greenlake: Hey, you're pretty.
girl: What?
*She got her headphones on and took it off.*
greenlake: What your name?
*She gave me a curious look and move her body toward my direction.*
girl: Why?
greenlake: Cause I like you. So what's your name?
girl: Erika.
greenlake: Let hang out sometimes Erika.
girl: I dunno, you have to talk to my dad.
greenlake: Okay, let me talk to your dad.
girl: no, he's at home.
greenlake: okay, give him a call.
*Some guy walked up to the straw section and was standing next to me. It was kinda distracting and I felt no need to continue. So I walked away.*

Me and my friend went to the kid section to sit down. He noticed a Asian girl and pointed out to me. Guess what? This was the one he think was a fob and didn't like. But he changed his mind. wtf hahah. So I walked up to her side while she was sitting.
greenlake: Hey.
*She jumps up....uh oh i thought it was bad sign*
greenlake: That's a good book you got there. What's it?
girl: I got it over there *she pointed to the right.*
greenlake: Let me see the cover.
*She shows me the cover and it says China*
greenlake: Are you from China?
girl: Yes.
greenlake: Ni hao.
girl: Hahah
greenlake: I think you're pale lan*beautiful in chinese, sometihng i learned a year ago, don't know how to spell tho*
* She lit up and smile.*
girl: aww, thank you.
greenlake: Okay, i'm gonna go check out the book. btw, sorry aobut scaring you earlier.
girl: oh, that's okay.
I think she show interested after I told her that. I think i could have gotten her number if I wanted too.

Me and my friend went to the magazine section and he pointed out one girl 15 feets from us. GEehzzzz finally we agreed on something. She was kinda thick, which made her sexy. I walked up to her, i told myself nothing is wrong with going up and made her day. I stand next to her and look at her.
greenlake: hey.
*she look up and at me.*
greenlake: I think you're pretty.
girl: Aww thanks.
greenlake: What's your name?
girl: krissy
*We shake hands*
greenlake: And you can call me Ha. We should hang out sometimes.
girl: yea
greenlake: gave me your number.
*She hesitated a bit.*
girl: hmm.... I rather not. i just moved here.
greenlake: that's kool.
girl: Yea, i don't think it's good.
greenlake: it fine.
girl: it was nice meeting you.
I think i could have gotten her number if I was more persistence. Kinda hard ot explain, but her face expression showed me she wanted to but she's warning ime it probably not a good idea. So i took it and leave. I was proud of it tho.

Well guys, I think that was it. Not a bad day. I think i'm improving. I can finally walk up to a girl like that. I'm gonna try to go to a whole different level next time. i think it was my friend who made it easy for me cause he helped put me in a fun mood. I'll have to try it out when sarging solo.

Microphone Fiend- Uhhh....wasn't Einstein insane???? :trouble: Hahah j/k. I agree with you on that pretty opener and the bf question. The bf question was just a habit. I'm gonna fix on that and the pretty line is something I used to lowered my approach anxiety. I will follow the flow after i'm used to it. Thanks for checking out my journal btw. I hope you're still sarging. I liked to read your. :yes:

Pimp-sicle- Thanks for taking your time to read it. If u want to know why I used the line and why I do direct then read my response to "Deus Ex." i also wanna give direct a try since I attempted DYD, MM and Juggler Method before. They didn't work for me tho. Btw, keep checking in. :rockon:

IWillReturnSoon- Mode One rocks baby!!!! I'm loving it so far.
 

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Great journal! You will be having success sooner or later cause I can tell you have balls of steel. How about trying David D's "Are you single?" I have been doing that and got a number on my first try. Open with "Hey can I ask you a question real quick?" that gets them to stop and listen to you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hey agent zero....Greenlake has done DYD and isn't too fond of it from he has said.

oh yea and Bump!
 

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My Worst Rejection!

July 9,2007
Nothing special really happens that day. I went to the mall for work and decided to approached a few girls. I walked up to a Asian girl who worked at a stand while she was talking to her co-worker. *I'm SO RUDE!!* :yes:
Well, the girls noticed I was walking toward them. She looked at me, I looked at her.....no sex. yet.
greenlake: I always see you work here and I'm curious about you.
*gave me a unsure look.* (ehhh....MISSION FAILED!)
greenlake: what's your name?
girl: Krissy.
*i hand out my hand....for around 5 sec and just stared at me. still unsured.*
greenlake: handshakes....?
girl: I don't give handshakes.....(Yea you only give handjob that's why!!!) :rockon:
greenlake: Krissy, I think you're pretty.
*Suddenly lit up.*
girl: Ohh Thank you!
greenlake: well.......that's it. Nice meeting you.
girl: Awwww fuk me now!!! (J/K j/K!!!) :moon:

I got 5 minutes til I have to be there at my job place. I went up the escalator and look down. I saw a pretty girl walking into a Hello Kitty store. I turn around and went down the escalator. I looked inside the store and saw around 6 people in there. UHHH OHHH.... I saw her standing behind the counter and waiting for what seem to be her friend. I walked up anyway and touch her lightly on the arm.
greenlake: I saw you out there and I got to come in here and meet you.
*one pair of eyes, two pair of eyes....6 pair of eyes looking at me!!!*
greenlake: What's your name?
girl: Pastiche( j/k! i forgot)
*we shake hands She noticed me look up at her friend*
girl: And this is Chris.
*Chris look interested too. uh oh. threesome action about to happen.*
greenlake: well......that's it. it was nice meeting you.
*She gave me a "that's it?" look.* (At least play with my kitty!)
girl: okay, nice meeting you too.

During work I tried to chat with one pretty Asian girl. I told her to smile cause she look pretty when when she smile. But she didn't seem to take it well. I guess she's shy or just not in the mood.

Then later on I spotted a pretty and tall girl who applied for the job there. What separated us were just some clothes.
greenlake: Hi, do you need any help?
girl: Oh, i'm just waiting for the job interview.
greenlake: What's your name?
girl: Marrissa.
greenlake: Marrisa, you're pretty. :eek:
* she gave me a big smile.*
girl: Thanks!!
I left.......

I didn't feel like talking at work that day cause I was tired. Didn't sleep until 6 in the morning. Should have jerk off........ :yes: But i'm excited about chilling with my new wing I met on the internet tomorrow.

July 10, 2007: My worst rejection! ;)
My brother whine about how it's not fair that he don't have a car on his off day. So i let him borrowed mine and told him to be back soon. My friend Le(negative kid) called at the right time and asked if I'm going anywhere today. I told him I gotta meet with someone at the mall. So he wanted to joined and I let him since I need a ride and i think my brother deserve to hang out with the car for today..........BIG MISTAKE. On the way there, he can't stopped complaining that mall is not a good place to pick up chicks and meeting up with a wingman is gay......he might be gay etc. We got there, I called my wing and asked him where he's at? He told me "Abercrombie and Fitch." Uhh.....why my workplace? hahah. I got there and went inside the store. I notice Marrissa was standing in front of the store as a greeter. I just wanna meet up with my wing and didn't see him until I walked all the way to the back. I saw a rat standing in the back looking at clothes...it's MASTER SPLINTER (I noticed his upper back lean over way too much., all he needs is cane. ) No! wait! it's a Asian guy. Must be my wing. Yes it is him. I pat him on the back and we introduce ourselves to make sure if he's a human, not a rat. I told him let leave this store and he say "okay." On the way out, I look at Marrissa and say "bye." She look me and gave me a "Oh wait, I remember you form yesterday!" look. She laugh(in a good way) and say bye.

Okay, that was the good thing. Here come the bad things. Me and my wing walked around for a bit and he can't stop asking me about Mystery Method and the game. I was kinda annoyed by that and told him "Saw any girl you want yet?" I personally hate discussing about these stuffs when I'm out there. One of the main reason is because I can't focus. We bumped into Le who was looking for the Nintendo Wii. I introduced them to each other. Le told me about the Wii and we went to the store to get the Wii. Took us at least 10 minutes staying there. But we'll skip that and move on to the approach. The mall didn't had that much pretty girls since it was a weekday. Or Le probably chased them all away with his negativity. :lol: I finally saw a hot girl with her girl friend walking the opposite direction. I didn't want to approach them cause I need t go pee(EXCUSES!) Guess what? They gotta go pee too. :p So I went into the men restroom and do my thing. I got out and saw them walked behind me. I was kinda nervous so I acted like i'm looking at my phone and walked behind them. Still took me a while to walked up to them. I finally did and went up to the hot one.
greenlake: Hey, what's your name?
*All of a sudden I heard "EWWWWwwww!", it was her friend. She turned around look at me, tears in her eyes. Uhhhh ohhh.... I guess somebody is on a period. :confused:
girl: Fuk off! you're so disgusting. What made you think she would like you. (something else I forgot)
*I didn't say anything, just look at her and kept walking next to her. Unaffected by her words. * ( YEa...there was only one way hall that lead out. Either I go wit her or I can go run back to then restroom and cry. But that's not mode one behavior.) ;) Le and my wing was waiting outside and she told them the same thing except in a abridge verison. Hahah they gave her a "WTF just happen" look. :eek: It was priceless. Anyway, I think she went kinda far there. They didn't do anything. If anything that would bothers me, that would be it.

So Le and my wing asked what happend and I told them. So i guess that kinda scared my wing and Le can use that as an opportunity to made my wing gave up by trying to discourage us. And he did. :angry: So We walked around for a few more minutes. Le say he wanna go home and play the wii. I told him "okay, i'll stay here. my wing will give me a ride home." But my wing made up some excuse saying that he got to go somewhere. I asked him "are you sure?" like three times. This kinda frustrate me more than that's girl harsh words.

I was dissapointed. He can't gave up now! I know for a fact that the worse thing has already end and success will come. I had no choice but to go home with Le.

A lot of guys read seduction materials, but not many become successful with women. Now I know why, the successful guys learned never to give up while the others just run back into their comp and cried when things get a little worse.

Btw, i know got a pretty long way til i'm mode one. Because I had to admit, the words from that girl did affect me later tonight. I saw a few hot girls at Wal-Mart but was feared that incident would happen again. But I really hope it does happen again. I want to conquer it!!

Good luck guys! Wish me luck on my journey!

Agent Zero-Thanks for the suggestion man. i'll give it a try just for fun sometimes.

IWillReturnSoon- Yup, you're right. DYD days are so over for me. But I think Agent Zero only meant the line "Are you single?" itself. Not DYD.
 

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lol... sh!t happens man. Wasnt even worth the effort to think of a witty response ya know. Can't waste your time trying to impress some b!tch. Anyways, nice to see you still wanted to sarge. Dont get mad @ your friends for not wanting to. Some times you just gotta go it alone. When you depend on others for rides and sh!t, things always end up falling through.

Anyways keep the approaches goin, and try to stay in conversation a little longer.
 

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GoSens said:
Hey greenlake, I don't prefer going direct myself, but considering your results, theres obviously something you're doing wrong. I haven't read through the entire thread, so I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but when a girl tells you she has a bf really early on in the interaction, it's because you're conveying too much interest right away.

I don't know much about going direct though so I can't help you there. I'd suggest trying going back to indirect/MM kind of stuff, but you said you've tried it. Do you have any field reports of when you tried it?

This is a great post and I couldn't agree with it more. When you approach, especially a cold approach, it is E-----S----S---E----N----T-----I-----A----L to build rapport and build it quickly. Greenlake is assuming that he can just walk up and say he essentially wants to fuvk them and have it happen. Make her smile, let HER talk, focus on maintaining good posture, body language and confidence. In any case, keep approaching, you'll get better with practice, but I still think your focusing on it too much.

For example, when I go out to a bar, party, club etc. I never really think "I better hook-up tonight!!" All I think is "I wanna have fun and let loose." And guess what usually ends up happening? Girls notice that your having a great time and are the life of the party. As a result you become attractive to them and it gives you the opportunity to close.

Keep up the cold approaching, but I think it would be better to start going to parties or other social gatherings where you can just focus on having a regular conversation with a girl. Stop worrying or concentrating soooo much on the pick-up aspect of things and everything will fall in place.



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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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