Weird hangout with GenZ chick

[Pandora]

So I met a 22yr old. She asked me to hang out sometime. She texted me a few days later to jump her car. I did. A few days later she invited me to hang. Before we finally chilled she told me she had a bf. Okay cool.

I got over there the first thing she told me was some woke nonsense about how she identifies. I told her that I am a male chauavnist. We kinda shared an akward laugh. I asked her how does her bf allow her to hang with other dudes? Does he know?

She says he does know and then she shrugs it off. We hang and smoke. I then excuse myself because I did not want to meet her bf if he came over. She may or may not be lying about the bf thing.

She called him her " partner". Basically GenZ is nuts. The females are crazy and the men are super weak. In the abscence of masculinity women will become masculine. It was bizarre.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Ok I think I need a lexicon.

Does “hang” mean have sex? Or is that “chilling”?

 

[Stanley]

I know a girl like this who pulls this stuff. A fair amount of Gen z men (especially in the past 2 years) have realized they can have preferences and should not tolerate their GF hanging alone with another guy they just met and smoked with. Sounds like maybe you just got unlucky with some new agey woke girl who has a soyboy for a boyfriend... or he doesn't know as of yet and she was using you as a tool to get him upset.

Regardless, sounds whacky. I made a post a while back about the partner thing and I do believe egalitarianism is to blame for that nonsense.

 

[Pandora]

Ok I think I need a lexicon.

Does “hang” mean have sex? Or is that “chilling”?

Hang means smoke pot/ drink and talk. Or it can mean sexual stuff. In my case it did not lead to sex. Hang is just a generic term really.

 

[Pandora]

Sounds like maybe you just got unlucky with some new agey woke girl who has a soyboy for a boyfriend... or he doesn't know as of yet and she was using you as a tool to get him upset.

Yeh Stanely I think you are right. She is hot and agreed to have dinner with me next time but I smell trouble. Ima pass on this one. I have not hit her up since.

 

[Pandora]

This chick was the typical woke girl. Everything was due to " societal constructs" and "gender roles". All I was thinking was bytch if you didnt have a fake " boyfriend" I would be trying to feel you up. You already know what field she worked in lol

 

[Pandora]

Its hard to have dyck discipline. This is the type of girl to get you in serious trouble. You could get into a fight with "bf" or get a false charge. Or it can be fun sex. Who knows. Sometimes you gotta pass I guess.

 

[Stanley]

Yeh Stanely I think you are right. She is hot and agreed to have dinner with me next time but I smell trouble. Ima pass on this one. I have not hit her up since.

This chick was the typical woke girl. Everything was due to " societal constructs" and "gender roles". All I was thinking was bytch if you didnt have a fake " boyfriend" I would be trying to feel you up. You already know what field she worked in lol

My first gf was like this (same age as this girl) and was a genuine BPD.

I was stupid enough to ignore the signs and went along with it because she was so attractive (genuinely a 9/10 in most men's eyes) and I was wet behind the ears. I was blinded by her looks and ignored her character flaws. She was very much apart of the woke movement and was fully on board the me2 movement circa 2018. Hated men, but only had male 'friends' and the like. On one occasion she ignored a date night we had, hung out with another guy, drove to the city and smoked pot with him. I put my foot down and it resulted in the typical

"you are insecure, controlling (hardly), you're a misogynist, i'm not doing anything wrong"

A week later I checked out and she went on a trip with her cousin and some guys a few years older. The week before she made claims that having guy friends is fine and she referred to a former supposed sexual assailant as a good friend. What do you think happened on that trip? As if it wasn't obvious...

Abort, stay away and do not engage with these types. They aren't worth the lay. They aren't worth the headache/heartache and they will drain you emotionally, mentally and everything in between.

Lesson learned lol

(Also, she is now in her late 20's dating a genuine soyboy in an open 'relationship' and hates men. Cannot make this stuff up) lol

 

[Pandora]

My first gf was like this (same age as this girl) and was a genuine BPD.

I was stupid enough to ignore the signs and went along with it because she was so attractive (genuinely a 9/10 in most men's eyes) and I was wet behind the ears. I was blinded by her looks and ignored her character flaws. She was very much apart of the woke movement and was fully on board the me2 movement circa 2018. Hated men, but only had male 'friends' and the like. On one occasion she ignored a date night we had, hung out with another guy, drove to the city and smoked pot with him. I put my foot down and it resulted in the typical

"you are insecure, controlling (hardly), you're a misogynist, i'm not doing anything wrong"

A week later I checked out and she went on a trip with her cousin and some guys a few years older. The week before she made claims that having guy friends is fine and she referred to a former supposed sexual assailant as a good friend. What do you think happened on that trip? As if it wasn't obvious...

Abort, stay away and do not engage with these types. They aren't worth the lay. They aren't worth the headache/heartache and they will drain you emotionally, mentally and everything in between.

Lesson learned lol

(Also, she is now in her late 20's dating a genuine soyboy in an open 'relationship' and hates men. Cannot make this stuff up) lol

Wow your ex sounds just like this girl. These chicks are so textbook its insane.

 

[Pandora]

I saw some SSRI bottles lying around. Im like great. A chick on SSRIs lecturing me on virtue and life. Wtf

 

[Pandora]

She's looking to jump ship and sees a provider in you for when her other sources dry up.

Don't get suckered in.

Dude that makes sense. So I met her by accident ( i cant say the details).
We then started talking on text sporadically. Then she asked me to jump her vehicle. I asked her why her "man" could not jump her vehicle? She said he was busy or at work.

So I thought it was bizarre that she only met me once yet trusted me that much. So you might be right about the provider thing.

Im hoping she is lying about the bf thing because thats not cool. I cant imagine an manly dude being with such a woke chick.

 

[Pandora]

Women always claim to have boyfriends when they don't want you to make sexual avances.



So what are you? If you're a manly dude, why do you 'hang' with woke chicks?



She's not sexually attracted to you, you are 'handy to have' as a back-up.

If you don't believe me, escalate to sex next time you meet her. She will refuse or tell you to have patience.

And if she has sex with you, use a condom. You don't want to get her pregnant. Trust me on this.

Yeh I dont think she felt chemistry with me. I think she liked me initially but after the hang out it was done. Usually if a girl likes you they will find an excuse to text you.

The manly man thing is a valid argument. There is no way im letting my woman get her car jumped by a guy ( she better call Triple AAA or Uber ). Then there is definately no way I am letting that guy come over and chill with her later.

I dont know any Millenials that would let that happen.

 

[SW15]

Before we finally chilled she told me she had a bf.

I've boinked several women who (claims to) have boyfriends. Didn't stop them from having sex with me.

It seems like she told you she had a boyfriend by using the term "partner". Is that true?

The post below that I have linked is a Rollo Tomassi post on how to handle the "I Have a Boyfriend" announcement.

When she says - I have a bf.

Does it mean the game is over on the spot? Seniors - throw some light on this folks.

www.sosuave.net

Bottom line: if you decided to go forward with the hang session, you are free to try to escalate. I could understand someone giving you the IHAB line via text messaging and you not deciding to spend time with her in-person.

Over the years, most of the Manosphere type articles/advices have typically advised on getting the IHAB line face-to-face. When getting the IHAB face-to-face, definitely ignore it and continue to escalate. However, with most interactions involving more indirect, asynchronous communication in text-based messaging, getting the IHAB in this form allows you the option to not show up to something in-person or going forward in-person and trying to escalate in a real world situation.

Basically GenZ is nuts.

This is true. Earlier Millennials (think 1981-1986 births) are going to notice differences between themselves and the first half of Gen Z (1997-early 2000s births) that has now entered adulthood. The latter part of Gen Z has yet to reach adulthood. Even some of the latter part of the Millennial generation (1992-1996) is a bit like Gen Z from the perspective of an earlier Millennial.

She called him her " partner".

That's quite common when dealing with a Gen Z person. I asked out a Gen Z woman earlier this year and got that response. I did this at a fitness class when the class instructor was a Gen Z. The primary reason I asked out the class instructor is because none of the female class attendees that day were attractive. I ended up chatting up the class instructor and got the excuse about her "partner". In a setting like the grocery store, an outdoor path, or the mall, I likely would have ignored that declaration and used a boyfriend destroyer line. Since she was a class instructor at my gym, my hands were tied as to what I could do. She mentioned her partner and offered to hang out as friends, which I refused. I stated that due to my high value, I do not accept male-female platonic friendship. I think that impressed her. I was in her class after that interaction without incident, though in subsequent class visits I didn't say much to her other than maybe the word 'hello'.

This chick was the typical woke girl. Everything was due to " societal constructs" and "gender roles". All I was thinking was bytch if you didnt have a fake " boyfriend" I would be trying to feel you up. You already know what field she worked in

The woman had the potential to be DTF. This sounds like a White woman and a woke White woman would be down for sex with a Black man.

She likely worked in academia, some government job, and/or was a social worker.

 

[SW15]

She texted me a few days later to jump her car. I did.

No manual labor for women without sex.

Genius Woman Uses Tinder to Get Guys to Dig Her Car Out

But does she dig them after they dig out her car?

time.com

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Pierce,
"Does “hang” mean have sex? "....Down Under in Australia we use something similar,so if you meet a single Mate you will ask "Who are you hanging out OF these days"which loosely translates to,with whom are you enjoying the pleasures of the bedroom...Subtly different to "Who are you hanging out WITH..."which asks about his current friends...A Brit would understand that too.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

When your level of screening includes gutter quality women, why act surprised when you end up spending time with them?

This is a 100% poor screening issue on your part.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

she told me was some woke nonsense about how she identifies.

All gen Z are like this

She says he does know and then she shrugs it off.

So he's a simp

She called him her " partner".

This is definitely a millenial/gen Z trend. Calling someone your partner translates to: "this is the person I am dating but am not sexually/romantically attracted to"

 

[Pandora]

It seems like she told you she had a boyfriend by using the term "partner". Is that true?

The post below that I have linked is a Rollo Tomassi post on how to handle the "I Have a Boyfriend" announcement.

When she says - I have a bf.

Does it mean the game is over on the spot? Seniors - throw some light on this folks.

www.sosuave.net

Bottom line: if you decided to go forward with the hang session, you are free to try to escalate. I could understand someone giving you the IHAB line via text messaging and you not deciding to spend time with her in-person.

Over the years, most of the Manosphere type articles/advices have typically advised on getting the IHAB line face-to-face. When getting the IHAB face-to-face, definitely ignore it and continue to escalate. However, with most interactions involving more indirect, asynchronous communication in text-based messaging, getting the IHAB in this form allows you the option to not show up to something in-person or going forward in-person and trying to escalate in a real world situation.



This is true. Earlier Millennials (think 1981-1986 births) are going to notice differences between themselves and the first half of Gen Z (1997-early 2000s births) that has now entered adulthood. The latter part of Gen Z has yet to reach adulthood. Even some of the latter part of the Millennial generation (1992-1996) is a bit like Gen Z from the perspective of an earlier Millennial.



That's quite common when dealing with a Gen Z person. I asked out a Gen Z woman earlier this year and got that response. I did this at a fitness class when the class instructor was a Gen Z. The primary reason I asked out the class instructor is because none of the female class attendees that day were attractive. I ended up chatting up the class instructor and got the excuse about her "partner". In a setting like the grocery store, an outdoor path, or the mall, I likely would have ignored that declaration and used a boyfriend destroyer line. Since she was a class instructor at my gym, my hands were tied as to what I could do. She mentioned her partner and offered to hang out as friends, which I refused. I stated that due to my high value, I do not accept male-female platonic friendship. I think that impressed her. I was in her class after that interaction without incident, though in subsequent class visits I didn't say much to her other than maybe the word 'hello'.



The woman had the potential to be DTF. This sounds like a White woman and a woke White woman would be down for sex with a Black man.

She likely worked in academia, some government job, and/or was a social worker.

Over text she said " in a relationship". When I was on her couch she said " partner". I tend to be reluctant to escalate on girls with bf's unless they make the first move. I want to gauge how serious the relationship is first. I have however hooked up with girls with boyfriends so I am not trying to act virtuous.

She def worked in academia, govt job and/or social worker. She was raised very white but is not white. Everything else is spot on though.

Also it is very depressing when a woman with a bf wants to hang out alone. It makes your paranoid about any relationship you get into after.

 

[Pandora]

All gen Z are like this



So he's a simp



This is definitely a millenial/gen Z trend. Calling someone your partner translates to: "this is the person I am dating but am not sexually/romantically attracted to"

Yeh thats what I am thinking. The bf might be a weak soy GenZ guy and she might not be extremely sexually attracted to him. I would like to believe that if a girl really loves you she would want to call you her "bf" or " her man" instead of partner.

Who knows if this girl is down to escalate with me. We will see.

 

[SW15]

it is very depressing when a woman with a bf wants to hang out alone. It makes your paranoid about any relationship you get into after.

Most women with boyfriends don't want to hang out alone with the typical guy who approaches them in non-bar settings. Not too many men approach women in non-bar setting either. The non-bar approach is a bit of a fading art, in part because it is so non-productive. Even a well practiced non-bar approacher has a low success rate for setting up first dates.

Most women with boyfriends aren't going to bars either, so that will reduce the quantity of approaches.

High value men might send women with boyfriends DMs on Instagram, so those women might be open for a hangout.

It's not difficult at all for any woman with a boyfriend to monkey branch to a new boyfriend. The thing that reduces the incidence of monkey branching is the ability to upgrade. While a woman can monkey branch easily, a monkey branch that represents an upgrade is more challenging.