I'm as light as a feather. But enlighten some of us here. What exactly did you teach again?reset said::crackup:
Everyone posts here to learn but it's also for fun. The thing at loveshack was to teach, and also have fun.
Lighten up everyone.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I'm as light as a feather. But enlighten some of us here. What exactly did you teach again?reset said::crackup:
Everyone posts here to learn but it's also for fun. The thing at loveshack was to teach, and also have fun.
Lighten up everyone.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I'm also a newbie from LS and I couldn't agree more.Saxis said:I gotta say: I think your "raid" was carried out poorly, hastily and without taste, but I can't really disagree with anything that has been posted. I didn't even get a chance to read much of it, Maybe the "panty-raiding" assumptions are correct, but I've seen evidence that's not entirely the case. At least enough to get me registered. I think most of the negative response you received was due to feeling "attacked" rather than "informed".
Nighthawk said:Ok, I was referring just as much to Frivolous. What do 'Real Men' do for a laugh then?
Well I think I'm teaching you that being in a relationship for five years is not in itself an achievement.HOMBRE said:I'm as light as a feather. But enlighten some of us here. What exactly did you teach again?
I just don't see how this advice is gender specific. Women do this too and could benefit from the same advice.reset said:Well I think I'm teaching you that being in a relationship for five years is not in itself an achievement.
That's probably one of the big themes on this site. Men grow up thinking being in a LTR in itself is a goal. Nothing wrong with being in a LTR, but it helps to be in it with the proper person.
So many guys will latch onto some girl and just hold on for dear life to say they have a "girlfriend". It can be destructive. Better to wait until you've found the right person. By your logic, everyone should have found the right person by 30, to meet your requirements of a 5 year LTR at 35.
Thing is most guys don't even start taking themselves or their lives all that seriously until they get a little older.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I actually agree with most of that. The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.reset said:Well I think I'm teaching you that being in a relationship for five years is not in itself an achievement.
That's probably one of the big themes on this site. Men grow up thinking being in a LTR in itself is a goal. Nothing wrong with being in a LTR, but it helps to be in it with the proper person.
So many guys will latch onto some girl and just hold on for dear life to say they have a "girlfriend". It can be destructive. Better to wait until you've found the right person. By your logic, everyone should have found the right person by 30, to meet your requirements of a 5 year LTR at 35.
Thing is most guys don't even start taking themselves or their lives all that seriously until they get a little older.
Good advice tan man.The tin man said:I just don't see how this advice is gender specific. Women do this too and could benefit from the same advice.
Keep being reasonable like that and I will begin to view you as a real person. This is your final warning.HOMBRE said:I actually agree with most of that. The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.
I guess everyone should remain open and not make such blanket statements. That's what I've learned.
thats just it. the advice that bleeds through these forum walls ARENT gender specific when you look at the message not the words.The tin man said:I just don't see how this advice is gender specific. Women do this too and could benefit from the same advice.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Ok, that makes sense. The one thing I do find interesting about LS is that women do talk about their own problems, and are usually genuine about how they feel. I have learned a lot from them and I am thankful for that. Women are no longer so mysterious to me.DavenJuan said:thats just it. the advice that bleeds through these forum walls ARENT gender specific when you look at the message not the words.
however, it is men mostly that we are trying to educate as well as learn from since that is WHAT we are.. MEN.
i greatly appreciate the female advice given on this forum from time to time, entertainment purposes mostly..
but unfortunately most of the advice gven cant really be taken to seriously, (depending the source) since most of what women THINK they feel on a given topic isnt necessarliy how she would feel emotionally. words and actions play different roles.
i think i am missing the boat on this whole 5 yr LTR " in general".HOMBRE said:I actually agree with most of that. The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.
I guess everyone should remain open and not make such blanket statements. That's what I've learned.
Right, a guideline, but where does the guideline come from? This is what I'm talking about. Many people think there is something wrong with them if they haven't found that right person, maybe they need to do some inner work, whatever, that's fine... but to say they are somehow defective, because they haven't been in a LTR by a certain age... all that does is reinforce their own negativity and their own negative self-image, and then it becomes a self-fulfiling prophecy.HOMBRE said:The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.
Only thing is, often times what they say they want, and what they actually respond to, are different things. (this could be said of men as well).The tin man said:Ok, that makes sense. The one thing I do find interesting about LS is that women do talk about their own problems, and are usually genuine about how they feel. I have learned a lot from them and I am thankful for that. Women are no longer so mysterious to me.
this is one of many things that i have found to be true from being on this forum for several years..The tin man said:Ok, that makes sense. The one thing I do find interesting about LS is that women do talk about their own problems, and are usually genuine about how they feel. I have learned a lot from them and I am thankful for that. Women are no longer so mysterious to me.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I agree with this. In the moment when they are saying whatever, yes they truly believe and stand by it. Till the guy who pushes all their buttons comes along.DavenJuan said:i say it with the conviction that women usually are 'GENIUNE" ABOUT HOW THE FEEL when they tell you certain things. however the catch is, some women THINK and SAY they feel a certain way with that same conviction, however their ACTIONS speak differently.