I'm as light as a feather. But enlighten some of us here. What exactly did you teach again?reset said::crackup:
Everyone posts here to learn but it's also for fun. The thing at loveshack was to teach, and also have fun.
Lighten up everyone.
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
I'm as light as a feather. But enlighten some of us here. What exactly did you teach again?reset said::crackup:
Everyone posts here to learn but it's also for fun. The thing at loveshack was to teach, and also have fun.
Lighten up everyone.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I'm also a newbie from LS and I couldn't agree more.Saxis said:I gotta say: I think your "raid" was carried out poorly, hastily and without taste, but I can't really disagree with anything that has been posted. I didn't even get a chance to read much of it, Maybe the "panty-raiding" assumptions are correct, but I've seen evidence that's not entirely the case. At least enough to get me registered. I think most of the negative response you received was due to feeling "attacked" rather than "informed".
Nighthawk said:Ok, I was referring just as much to Frivolous. What do 'Real Men' do for a laugh then?
Well I think I'm teaching you that being in a relationship for five years is not in itself an achievement.HOMBRE said:I'm as light as a feather. But enlighten some of us here. What exactly did you teach again?
I just don't see how this advice is gender specific. Women do this too and could benefit from the same advice.reset said:Well I think I'm teaching you that being in a relationship for five years is not in itself an achievement.
That's probably one of the big themes on this site. Men grow up thinking being in a LTR in itself is a goal. Nothing wrong with being in a LTR, but it helps to be in it with the proper person.
So many guys will latch onto some girl and just hold on for dear life to say they have a "girlfriend". It can be destructive. Better to wait until you've found the right person. By your logic, everyone should have found the right person by 30, to meet your requirements of a 5 year LTR at 35.
Thing is most guys don't even start taking themselves or their lives all that seriously until they get a little older.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I actually agree with most of that. The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.reset said:Well I think I'm teaching you that being in a relationship for five years is not in itself an achievement.
That's probably one of the big themes on this site. Men grow up thinking being in a LTR in itself is a goal. Nothing wrong with being in a LTR, but it helps to be in it with the proper person.
So many guys will latch onto some girl and just hold on for dear life to say they have a "girlfriend". It can be destructive. Better to wait until you've found the right person. By your logic, everyone should have found the right person by 30, to meet your requirements of a 5 year LTR at 35.
Thing is most guys don't even start taking themselves or their lives all that seriously until they get a little older.
Good advice tan man.The tin man said:I just don't see how this advice is gender specific. Women do this too and could benefit from the same advice.
Keep being reasonable like that and I will begin to view you as a real person. This is your final warning.HOMBRE said:I actually agree with most of that. The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.
I guess everyone should remain open and not make such blanket statements. That's what I've learned.
thats just it. the advice that bleeds through these forum walls ARENT gender specific when you look at the message not the words.The tin man said:I just don't see how this advice is gender specific. Women do this too and could benefit from the same advice.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Ok, that makes sense. The one thing I do find interesting about LS is that women do talk about their own problems, and are usually genuine about how they feel. I have learned a lot from them and I am thankful for that. Women are no longer so mysterious to me.DavenJuan said:thats just it. the advice that bleeds through these forum walls ARENT gender specific when you look at the message not the words.
however, it is men mostly that we are trying to educate as well as learn from since that is WHAT we are.. MEN.
i greatly appreciate the female advice given on this forum from time to time, entertainment purposes mostly..
but unfortunately most of the advice gven cant really be taken to seriously, (depending the source) since most of what women THINK they feel on a given topic isnt necessarliy how she would feel emotionally. words and actions play different roles.
i think i am missing the boat on this whole 5 yr LTR " in general".HOMBRE said:I actually agree with most of that. The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.
I guess everyone should remain open and not make such blanket statements. That's what I've learned.
Right, a guideline, but where does the guideline come from? This is what I'm talking about. Many people think there is something wrong with them if they haven't found that right person, maybe they need to do some inner work, whatever, that's fine... but to say they are somehow defective, because they haven't been in a LTR by a certain age... all that does is reinforce their own negativity and their own negative self-image, and then it becomes a self-fulfiling prophecy.HOMBRE said:The age and 5 year thing is not set in stone though really. It's more of a general guideline.
Only thing is, often times what they say they want, and what they actually respond to, are different things. (this could be said of men as well).The tin man said:Ok, that makes sense. The one thing I do find interesting about LS is that women do talk about their own problems, and are usually genuine about how they feel. I have learned a lot from them and I am thankful for that. Women are no longer so mysterious to me.
this is one of many things that i have found to be true from being on this forum for several years..The tin man said:Ok, that makes sense. The one thing I do find interesting about LS is that women do talk about their own problems, and are usually genuine about how they feel. I have learned a lot from them and I am thankful for that. Women are no longer so mysterious to me.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I agree with this. In the moment when they are saying whatever, yes they truly believe and stand by it. Till the guy who pushes all their buttons comes along.DavenJuan said:i say it with the conviction that women usually are 'GENIUNE" ABOUT HOW THE FEEL when they tell you certain things. however the catch is, some women THINK and SAY they feel a certain way with that same conviction, however their ACTIONS speak differently.