"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Crazy Asian

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You know how girls always say that they want a nice guy?
How they don't want drama and complain that all guys are jerks, even though they are attracted to those guys?

Now Think

You know how we always say that girls don't think/act logically?
and i've always said that i just want a girl that doesn't bull**** around and says what she means.
But i know a few logical and straightforward girls, and all of the are completely unattractive to me.
It's the illogical ones that i'm attracted to.
this girl that is in love with me and that i don't like, is personality wise, my "ideal" girl. but i don't like her
Just like how the "ideal" guy is the nice guy.
We really don't want this, but just the idea of it.

it's the same concept as girls thinking they want a nice guy, but not actually being attracted to them.

what do u guys think?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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It is a truism for both sexes..

The main part is that she doesn't fulfill Test 3 which is The Challenge.

If you have no fear of loss and there is certainty.. neither male or female will be attracted.

Your ideal friend is not a Challenge to you.
 

horaholic

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But i know a few logical and straightforward girls, and all of the are completely unattractive to me.
When you say 'unattractive,' are talking physical, or in general? Are they not as good looking as the other ones, or they just dont do it for you at all?

I've been accused of only going for crazy chicks. I dont believe it, though. They all seemed sane enough when I met them. Plus, they were just the ones I happened to hook with. I didnt pick them. I've been attracted to many sane, normal girls, I have just not been able to hook one.
 

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Crazy Asian said:
You know how girls always say that they want a nice guy?
How they don't want drama and complain that all guys are jerks, even though they are attracted to those guys?

Now Think

You know how we always say that girls don't think/act logically?
and i've always said that i just want a girl that doesn't bull**** around and says what she means.
But i know a few logical and straightforward girls, and all of the are completely unattractive to me.
It's the illogical ones that i'm attracted to.
I think you're confusing "illogical" with "hot" and "logical" with "not attractive."

If a hot girl was logical and straightforward with wanting to have sex, you would drop everything and give up everything for the sex. The reason you don't like logical and straightforward girls is because they are the ones who are usually less attractive or overweight and have trouble convincing guys of having sex.
 
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