"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ways to be Spontaneous

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One of the BEST ways to increase interest levels when in a LTR is to be spontaneous! Break out of the usual cycle of things and keep her guessing.

So post YOUR favorite ways to keep her on her toes and lovin every minute of the relationship.

-Show up to her house unannounced, take her for a walk or to a sweet sushi resturaunt
-While in public (but no one is looking), touch her in a sexual way (grab her boob, ass, etc.) and look at her in a "seducing" way. Then keep walking/talking like nothing happened. This also helps build sexual tension and work her up for later

Lets hear em!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Isn't using the ideas that you solicit defeating the purpose of being spontaneous?
 
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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Isn't using the ideas that you solicit defeating the purpose of being spontaneous?
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Ok let me rephrase: "Ways to SEEM spontaneous".

Not in a phony way, but rather just keep the relationship interesting

Sheesh.
 
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So you're saying that you don't want to think up anything yourself but you don't want to be phony, you just want to SEEM phony... er "spontaneous." :rolleyes:
 
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Oh the irony of this thread.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I think the thread is a good idea. The point is, whether you thought it up on the spot or not makes no difference, it's THE GIRL that is going to think it's spontaneous, that's all that's important. If you get a good tip, it's not like you're going to tell her you saw it on sosuave.net, you're just going to play it off like you made it up on the spot, duh.
 
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I think Supremo is on the right track. It's articulating succinctly the idea he is trying to convey where his error weighs.

Supremo, instead of feigning spontaneity I think it's best to attack from the point of view of the wanted man.

Let me explain: If you're too busy to sit by the phone and wait for it to ring to hear her voice you're exciting. You must give her mind room to drift and think of the possibilities of what you can do both to and for her. This is the essence of an interesting, mature person. being unexplainable and fresh provides her mind with all sorts of different scenarios and exchanges.
 
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speakeasy said:
I think the thread is a good idea. The point is, whether you thought it up on the spot or not makes no difference, it's THE GIRL that is going to think it's spontaneous, that's all that's important. If you get a good tip, it's not like you're going to tell her you saw it on sosuave.net, you're just going to play it off like you made it up on the spot, duh.
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SOMEONE understands what I'm trying to do.

KarmaSutra said:
Let me explain: If you're too busy to sit by the phone and wait for it to ring to hear her voice you're exciting. You must give her mind room to drift and think of the possibilities of what you can do both to and for her. This is the essence of an interesting, mature person. being unexplainable and fresh provides her mind with all sorts of different scenarios and exchanges.
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So, you're saying basically not to talk to her all the time and give her "the chance to miss you"...?

Guys, this wasn't meant as a thread to help ME it was meant to be along the lines of where people post their favorite openers or smoothest moves.

Give one, take one.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Maybe you could practice your spontaniety as well.

Like those guys who walk around in front of mirrors; with invisible footballs under each arm, with no swing, and chest ridiculously puffed, working on their 'alphaness'
 
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One of my favorite lines derives from one of the funniest movies "Dumb and Dumber".

Randomly,I say something along the lines of "I desperately want to make love to a schoolboy right now" or can ask them "Have you ever made love to a schoolboy?".Field tested and it gets some laughs.

Also if its me and a friend and we are with some girls,I give him the cue and we start singing "If you wanna be my lover,you gotta get with my friends,making love forever,friendship never eeeeends" or any pop song.Its very random yes but it can spice up any boring situation
 
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