"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Was your dad an assertive alpha? Or a boring beta?

RockaRolla25

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I am curious to see what you guys think about fathers and sons. Is it possible for your alphaness to come from your father?

Let me give a few examples ( I am assuming traditional mom and dad homes):

Person A: grows up with mom and dad. Dad is an assertive alpha always talking about women. He nudges his son when he's about 13 and says, "see the cans on that one?" The father and son do this whenever they go out. Father sneaks him playboys and is open about sex with any questions the son has. As a result the boy is having sex by 13-14 years old and knows to be ****y and funny.

Person B: grows up with mom and dad. However, dad is a boring beta who never mentions women sexually or makes any comments. He never nudges his son when they go out or talks about sex. The son gets a vibe that he can't talk to his dad about sex because his dad never mentions it. As a result, the son feels "ashamed" about sex and shy around women.

Is it entirely possible that Person B will grow up to be an AFC and person A will grow up to be an alpha?

Do you think this has some merit?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Borknagar

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Depends, I didn't meet my dad till i was 13 and moved in with him and my step-mom when I was 15. My dad, well, not sure kinda in the middle? he had his side but we didn't really get to starting talking about women till a few years ago. When I was in my 20s I was pretty much a sexless loser, now my dad knows about my activities.

My dad is kinda beta though, divorced now, and knows the ****ed up behavior of women. Though I agree with him. He's single now, maybe I should send him to sosuave?
 

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This may have some truth. I am the B guy, however, my dad is very alpha. He runs things in the house and my mom knows her place.

My dad never talked about girls/sex with me with turned me into a afc until i found this site.

I will never let that happen to my son if i have one. I will teach him everything.
 

RockaRolla25

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Aaron B said:
I'm thankful my Dad put his foot in my ass and made me into a man. I think a lot of guys are missing that these days
What did your dad do?

Did he talk to you with his belt when he had something to say?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Aaron B

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RockaRolla25 said:
What did your dad do?

Did he talk to you with his belt when he had something to say?
he didn't let me be a ***** and he motivated me to man up and meet his standards

and yeah i got a lot of spankings
 

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I think deep down we all know, but let's show respect regardless. You are YOU.
 

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My dad is an angry beta, also a fat pig, and a scumbag. After 30 years he's still angry at mom for selling his shytty car to feed me while he was in prison for taking bribes at work. After 7 years in prison he didn't even had a single tat, I bet he spend that time being somebody's bytch. Nowadays he has a new wife, she weights at least 250 lbs, and it's one of those gold diggin types. He gets all his confidence believing he's in love or something. That pathetic low life will never talk to me again nor see his grand son or daughter, I forbid it.
 

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Person C: The as*hole (think Paul Senior from American Chopper) That's my dad. I have no good memories with him, only of him yelling all the time. As I grew up, if I ever came to him with a personal interest of mine or something that I wanted to pursue, he just looked at me with a blank face and walked away. If it didnt interest him, he didn't give a sh1t.

And I turned out quite opposite of him. I have a very good relationship with a girl I treat very well. I refuse to act like an as*hole because it reminds me of my dad.
 

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I got B. But to be fair, he was an immigrant who came to the U.S. in the 70's from Poland and he used to work on a farm/shipyard. Different culture and different times so he probably didn't have that A father. He knows his shiit and when to put his foot down, but he is the last man I would go to for advice about women.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Kerpal said:
My dad is the definition of a clueless, beta loser. I've come to the conclusion that most of my depression, anxiety, etc. that have made my life suck so badly are because of the way he "raised" me.
EXACTLY the same..
 

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My dad was too stupid to be any probably, thats why he couldnt be anything but average, thankfully my brothers were few years older than me and when they came back from the army they helped me.

The worst thing I ever observed anyway are not beta fathers who give no direction to their sons but beta fathers who acts alpha toward their sons any time they rebel to bossy mothers or teachers.

The worst thing possible for a kid is to do the struggle by himselfes against unfair authorities and not only lack support from his fathers but to have him reinforce those.

You will find this settings very common among those frustrated men who go on a killing spree only to have video games to be blamed.
 

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Sometimes I think the only reason my parents are still together is because of islam and the kids.

My dad is ultimate beta, whenever anytihng goes wrong he just blows a fuse and starts screaming until someone decides they wanna listen to his "man of the house" speech.
 

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My dad's a hardass ex-marine. He's by no means a "ladies man" or a "player", but he did teach me how to be a man.

When people meet my dad, they generally say something a long the lines of "now it all makes sense..". I must take after him a bit, but I think I get the most tail out of all the males in my family, for damn sure.

-Scars
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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kind of a crossover between the two. assertive in being a boring beta. i would look at girls and he would tell me to "look not touch"...at the same time he did go through a lot of effort in trying to win women over through excess cologne, driving a porsche.. he had boxes stacked with porno magazines laying around the house. when i told him i had a girlfriend in middle school, he asked me the meaning of it then told me it would eventually end.
 

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Your perceptions on Alpha and Beta are very skewed.

Your description of an alpha dad was only referring to a sex addiction and unhealthy vulgar parenting lol. Any father that encourages sex at 14 is no better than a father who gets beat up by his wife.

The importance of Alpha male role model in a father is encouraging confidence and understanding of your role as a man. Not encouraging underage sex.
 

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My stepdad could and did talk to me about everything sex-related but he was also a grownup who didn't show 13 year olds pornos or leer at women in front of me (he was, afterall, married to my MOM). So he was pretty much a real man not a jerk like the man you described.
 

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My dad and I never discussed women at all. The closest we got was when he would reminisce about his past girlfriends by saying things like, "yeah, she was a lot of fun," and that was it.

He is as beta as they get, and is happy that way with woman he's with. As a result of lack of information, I didn't even know how to make good conversation. This website has been my parent when it comes to women. Because I've applied the things on here that I read, I've gone from being unable to converse with a girl to being able to pick women up without any gimmicks.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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