Was your dad an assertive alpha? Or a boring beta?

[RockaRolla25]

I am curious to see what you guys think about fathers and sons. Is it possible for your alphaness to come from your father?

Let me give a few examples ( I am assuming traditional mom and dad homes):

Person A: grows up with mom and dad. Dad is an assertive alpha always talking about women. He nudges his son when he's about 13 and says, "see the cans on that one?" The father and son do this whenever they go out. Father sneaks him playboys and is open about sex with any questions the son has. As a result the boy is having sex by 13-14 years old and knows to be ****y and funny.

Person B: grows up with mom and dad. However, dad is a boring beta who never mentions women sexually or makes any comments. He never nudges his son when they go out or talks about sex. The son gets a vibe that he can't talk to his dad about sex because his dad never mentions it. As a result, the son feels "ashamed" about sex and shy around women.

Is it entirely possible that Person B will grow up to be an AFC and person A will grow up to be an alpha?

Do you think this has some merit?

 

[Borknagar]

Depends, I didn't meet my dad till i was 13 and moved in with him and my step-mom when I was 15. My dad, well, not sure kinda in the middle? he had his side but we didn't really get to starting talking about women till a few years ago. When I was in my 20s I was pretty much a sexless loser, now my dad knows about my activities.

My dad is kinda beta though, divorced now, and knows the ****ed up behavior of women. Though I agree with him. He's single now, maybe I should send him to sosuave?

 

[ecko280]

This may have some truth. I am the B guy, however, my dad is very alpha. He runs things in the house and my mom knows her place.

My dad never talked about girls/sex with me with turned me into a afc until i found this site.

I will never let that happen to my son if i have one. I will teach him everything.

 

[Aaron B]

I'm thankful my Dad put his foot in my ass and made me into a man. I think a lot of guys are missing that these days

 

[RockaRolla25]

I'm thankful my Dad put his foot in my ass and made me into a man. I think a lot of guys are missing that these days

What did your dad do?

Did he talk to you with his belt when he had something to say?

 

[Aaron B]

What did your dad do?

Did he talk to you with his belt when he had something to say?

he didn't let me be a ***** and he motivated me to man up and meet his standards

and yeah i got a lot of spankings

 

[DJVladdy]

I think deep down we all know, but let's show respect regardless. You are YOU.

 

[Drdeee]

My dad is an angry beta, also a fat pig, and a scumbag. After 30 years he's still angry at mom for selling his shytty car to feed me while he was in prison for taking bribes at work. After 7 years in prison he didn't even had a single tat, I bet he spend that time being somebody's bytch. Nowadays he has a new wife, she weights at least 250 lbs, and it's one of those gold diggin types. He gets all his confidence believing he's in love or something. That pathetic low life will never talk to me again nor see his grand son or daughter, I forbid it.

 

[Dannyrt34]

Person C: The as*hole (think Paul Senior from American Chopper) That's my dad. I have no good memories with him, only of him yelling all the time. As I grew up, if I ever came to him with a personal interest of mine or something that I wanted to pursue, he just looked at me with a blank face and walked away. If it didnt interest him, he didn't give a sh1t.

And I turned out quite opposite of him. I have a very good relationship with a girl I treat very well. I refuse to act like an as*hole because it reminds me of my dad.

 

[Upside]

I got B. But to be fair, he was an immigrant who came to the U.S. in the 70's from Poland and he used to work on a farm/shipyard. Different culture and different times so he probably didn't have that A father. He knows his shiit and when to put his foot down, but he is the last man I would go to for advice about women.

 

[European-DJ]

My dad is the definition of a clueless, beta loser. I've come to the conclusion that most of my depression, anxiety, etc. that have made my life suck so badly are because of the way he "raised" me.

EXACTLY the same..

 

[Strelok]

My dad was too stupid to be any probably, thats why he couldnt be anything but average, thankfully my brothers were few years older than me and when they came back from the army they helped me.

The worst thing I ever observed anyway are not beta fathers who give no direction to their sons but beta fathers who acts alpha toward their sons any time they rebel to bossy mothers or teachers.

The worst thing possible for a kid is to do the struggle by himselfes against unfair authorities and not only lack support from his fathers but to have him reinforce those.

You will find this settings very common among those frustrated men who go on a killing spree only to have video games to be blamed.

 

[Zarky]

My dad's a good guy, but a "B."

 

[Ciel]

Sometimes I think the only reason my parents are still together is because of islam and the kids.

My dad is ultimate beta, whenever anytihng goes wrong he just blows a fuse and starts screaming until someone decides they wanna listen to his "man of the house" speech.

 

[Scars]

My dad's a hardass ex-marine. He's by no means a "ladies man" or a "player", but he did teach me how to be a man.

When people meet my dad, they generally say something a long the lines of "now it all makes sense..". I must take after him a bit, but I think I get the most tail out of all the males in my family, for damn sure.

-Scars

 

[xdreamz]

kind of a crossover between the two. assertive in being a boring beta. i would look at girls and he would tell me to "look not touch"...at the same time he did go through a lot of effort in trying to win women over through excess cologne, driving a porsche.. he had boxes stacked with porno magazines laying around the house. when i told him i had a girlfriend in middle school, he asked me the meaning of it then told me it would eventually end.

 

[Ease]

Your perceptions on Alpha and Beta are very skewed.

Your description of an alpha dad was only referring to a sex addiction and unhealthy vulgar parenting lol. Any father that encourages sex at 14 is no better than a father who gets beat up by his wife.

The importance of Alpha male role model in a father is encouraging confidence and understanding of your role as a man. Not encouraging underage sex.

 

[FairShake]

My stepdad could and did talk to me about everything sex-related but he was also a grownup who didn't show 13 year olds pornos or leer at women in front of me (he was, afterall, married to my MOM). So he was pretty much a real man not a jerk like the man you described.

 

[Deadly_Ripped]

My dad and I never discussed women at all. The closest we got was when he would reminisce about his past girlfriends by saying things like, "yeah, she was a lot of fun," and that was it.

He is as beta as they get, and is happy that way with woman he's with. As a result of lack of information, I didn't even know how to make good conversation. This website has been my parent when it comes to women. Because I've applied the things on here that I read, I've gone from being unable to converse with a girl to being able to pick women up without any gimmicks.

 

[n00bPimp]

My dad is a b also. He's a very quiet reserved guy, but he's very hardworking and rarely gets mad.