"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Was I just LJBF'ed?

T Square

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So I just got back from a date with a hot girl I met through a painting class I was taking (not a university class, but one of those meet-once-a-week-for-fun classes for working stiffs like me take).

The last day of class we were looking at paintings in a museum. I thought I was getting some IOI's from her: She kept following me around, I firted with her and she flirted back, then at the end of the trip she gave me her e-mail and said we should hang out sometime.

I set up a coffee date for today to get to know her better. She shows up with her two friends! WTF! I played it cool and laid down some C+F stuff while talking to the group. I think I did a good job winning over the group. They were laughing a lot and seemed to like me. At the end of the "date" she said good-bye and made a few references about how we should see each other later.

So my question is, what's the deal with her bringing her friends along? Was she LJBF'ing me? Was she bringing them along to help check me out and keep her safe if I turned out to be a creepy guy? What do you guys think?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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She probably just wanted to see how you would react and also get the opinion of you from her friends. I wouldnt worry about it but just ask her out again and if she brings her friends I would think you guys are just friends.
 

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she was never into you. detach now. if she had a coffee date with brad pitt do you think she would bring her two guy friends? no, she'd want to be alone with him.
 

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I've actually had this happen before with a girl that was making all the moves on me. She came to what i thought was a date with her friends along. I still don't really understand it. Perhaps its just manipulation, perhaps its some sort of test of worthiness. fukk if i know how to handle it. if anyone does i'd love to hear.
 

nonchalant

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a girl i dated told me she would do this to guys she had ljbf'ed who were just not getting it. if this girl is doing this to you, she does not care about you at all and is an AW biatch.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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hmm nonchalant may be right, but i have had a girl do this to me, and she was nuts over me. She just wanted her friend to approve me first too. I say don't NEXT her right away, set up another coffee and see if she's doing the same thing.
 

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El Don said:
She probably just wanted to see how you would react and also get the opinion of you from her friends. I wouldnt worry about it but just ask her out again and if she brings her friends I would think you guys are just friends.
No. She brings friends to feel safe and to establish a barrier.

You've been LJBF'd. Next girl.
 
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