"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Was i blind and stupid?

christz

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Because i'm thinking I was.

OK here's the story

Me and friends are at the college dorms, partying it up. Then they go chris show is your magic on one of the girls here in the dorms. I'm like ok perfect time to test out my new DJ mindset.

They pick the girl an HB8 so i see her walking, doesn't pay me any mind and she walks into the computer lab.

well i go into the computer lab, sit down talk to her.. needless to say we broke out into a full on conversation about ****. I'm naturally a sarcastic guy. so the C+F was there. She laughed, asked me if i knew some peeps at the college i was going to.

My friends passed by a few times.. then one even came in and was like is he bothering you.

she looked at me and laughed and said no were having a conversation. ANYWAYS more time passes i think i was talkin with this girl for at least 20 or 30 minutes. Anyway my friends come back.. they're like chris were gonna go outside to have a smoke

I'm like cool, i'll be there she's like i'm gonna go down to, you should come so i'm like aiight, so i follow her to her dorm room and i was like so this is your room.

she's like yeah, but its messy so don't come in as she said smileing, and she pushed open the door and walked in but held it open for me.. I didn't go in LOL i figured she actually didn't want me to. Now that i think of it i think she kinda did.

Anyway we walk downstaires, she's smokeing my friends finish up smokeing they go back upstairs me and her start talking more outside.. then about another 20 minutes pass and my friends come down, they leave i stay. She's like well i gotta go back up to my room, and she paused.. i was like alright well i'll probably get outta here.. she's like ok cool and she put her arms out for a hug. so i hugged her.

I'm thinking i totally fuc*ed a perfectly good chance with a perfectly hot chick :(
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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oda

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shut up man, be optomistic... you didn't do anything wrong. At worst she might just think she has to work a little more for your intimacy
 
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Originally posted by christz
Because i'm thinking I was.

OK here's the story

Me and friends are at the college dorms, partying it up. Then they go chris show is your magic on one of the girls here in the dorms. I'm like ok perfect time to test out my new DJ mindset.

They pick the girl an HB8 so i see her walking, doesn't pay me any mind and she walks into the computer lab.

well i go into the computer lab, sit down talk to her.. needless to say we broke out into a full on conversation about ****. I'm naturally a sarcastic guy. so the C+F was there. She laughed, asked me if i knew some peeps at the college i was going to.

My friends passed by a few times.. then one even came in and was like is he bothering you.

she looked at me and laughed and said no were having a conversation. ANYWAYS more time passes i think i was talkin with this girl for at least 20 or 30 minutes. Anyway my friends come back.. they're like chris were gonna go outside to have a smoke

I'm like cool, i'll be there she's like i'm gonna go down to, you should come so i'm like aiight, so i follow her to her dorm room and i was like so this is your room.

she's like yeah, but its messy so don't come in as she said smileing, and she pushed open the door and walked in but held it open for me.. I didn't go in LOL i figured she actually didn't want me to. Now that i think of it i think she kinda did.

Anyway we walk downstaires, she's smokeing my friends finish up smokeing they go back upstairs me and her start talking more outside.. then about another 20 minutes pass and my friends come down, they leave i stay. She's like well i gotta go back up to my room, and she paused.. i was like alright well i'll probably get outta here.. she's like ok cool and she put her arms out for a hug. so i hugged her.

I'm thinking i totally fuc*ed a perfectly good chance with a perfectly hot chick :(
all ur doing by posting about it is whining,
no good comes out of re-living ur mistakes, and u sure wont learn from it until you are in similar situation n do it right.
 
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Originally posted by oda
shut up man, be optomistic... you didn't do anything wrong. At worst she might just think she has to work a little more for your intimacy
can i get a shut the fnck up for christz !!:p
 

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over analyzing has got to be the number one confidence killer
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Wiesman44

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Dude, there's a strong possibility you could have gotten that chick in to bed. But u have to look on the bright side. You approached her and chatted her up for 20 mins. Thats more than most guys would be able to do. So now your in good shape. Now the point is to get her to want to f#uck you instead of just be attracted to you.

Read up on some patterning skills, that will do the trick for ya.
 
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