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[Stallionstud]

let me tell you about tonight’s failure. This will help. True story. I set up a date tonight. Ended up being 85% sure that date wouldn’t show. I was right. So I got lucky, happen to chat up 23yr old. 8hrs prior! SHE showed up. So while I’m hanging with my buddy’s. She literally tells me I don’t “have permission” to kino her. I’m like “oh?” I end up barely moving past that point but slamming too many beers in the process. She leaves the bar We awkwardly say goodbye/whatever. I Text her in an hour basically “that was cool forget the stupid sh!t” she awknowledges things ended weirdly says whatever. I say “yeah we did alright “ “we did fine”. That’s where the story ends. I’m 8 years older than her.

What’s my next move?

Here’s my game plan: do nothing, fvck that

 

[marmel75]

Haha...uh there is no next move. Sometimes two people just dont click and you shrug your shoulders and move on.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

She literally tells me I don’t “have permission” to kino her.

Wut. What sort of kino were you trying, out of interest? Are we talking light touches on the wrists or did you just go too heavy too quick?

I find it weird that a girl would go on a date, but at the same time object to even the lightest and most gentlemanly of touches.

 

[Stallionstud]

Talking about her ripped jeans which she kept putting her hands in, ran my hand up the Outside thiegh to hip.
Relatively unsexual. Had already been touching. I lined the date up by basically talking about touching her in every message.

My kino probably needs work I guess, she obviously wasn’t reciprocating/initiating enough

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

ran my hand up the Outside thiegh to hip.
Relatively unsexual. Had already been touching. I lined the date up by basically talking about touching her in every message.

Yeah I'm no expert but I'd say using your hand on the thigh to hip is pretty damn sexual, personally. I'd really struggle to do that first date and make it feel natural rather than too far.

Good to set it up through the messages, though...perhaps you just needed to flirt verbally a little more first?

I'll pass a disclaimer saying I'm pretty s*** at escalating kino (it's by far my biggest dating weakness actually), but when I HAVE had success with it, I've almost always started with leaning my leg(s) up against hers before I do any stuff with my hands. It's unsubtle enough that it's obvious, but also subtle enough that you can apologise and act like it was by mistake if she doesn't appreciate it.

And if she doesn't pull away, you know straight away that things are heating up and you've got some nice large-surface-area, pretty intimate contact going on.

One girl, all I did was the leg touching thing and she was playing footsie with me under the table for an hour. Thighs rubbing and everything. It was actually super sexy.

Whereas my experience with hands is that it's really blatant and it's either going to go well immediately or terribly immediately.

 

[Stallionstud]

Good advice, I’d say the verbal flirting may be my big weakness. I did end up doing that leg to leg.

Just caught me off guard. Never been told I don’t have permission haha. Probably a small sh!t test I failed. I drank too much for sure.