"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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zerocelcius

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Been with GF for a 'lil over a year Exclusive Most of the year.

Somewhere in the last few months I have become her Emotional Tampon, and I told her I wasn't going to do it anymore. I told her I needed space. Since then she has bent over backward to try to fix the things she thinks were the Problem (which wern't). I told her it was the constant drama and I was done.

She calls all the time, and says she can't wait for me to be done with my space...(not myspace)! I did want space, but now I think I am finished. 'cause when she calls it is cool at first ..."how was your day'....*crash & burn*...." From that moment it is DRAMA DRAMA... Work Drama, Family Drama, etc.

Besides all the drama everything is cool and we are great friends. The problem is the Drama. I can't take it and I have been upfront about the issue. Not sure if she understands or just dosn't care. What do you guys suggest?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Frankly, I think you have to put up with listening to some drama. It's the same with any girl: she wants to tell you how her day was, and a lot of things during that day will be annoying crap.

when she calls it is cool at first ..."how was your day'....*crash & burn*...." From that moment it is DRAMA DRAMA... Work Drama, Family Drama, etc.
Maybe she lives a dramatic life! First off, STOP letting real conversations happen by phone. She wants to say something, she can say it in person. (That way, she'll only remember half of it.)

I don't think you had it so bad with this chick. You can make a joke out of it: get a little 15 minute hourglass, "okay, you can vent until the sands run out."

Guys here complain about being an emotional tampon, but that's ONLY when she's trying to whine about other guys (so she doesn't have to whine to them.) But she's not doing that. Part of being close to a female is listening to her vent, and saying "uh huh, okay". Within reason. If she's talking too much, start summing up the drama in 3 sentence soundbites, and saying "see, you can say this stuff faster."

I don't see any nextable offense here. Hope this helps.
 

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Taking space was the wrong way to go about this. Women take space. Men just dump em.

Listen, most all women are annoying. I have very seldom found a girl who wasn't annoying, and if she was, she wasn't attractice, which sucks.

Take my gf. She's a talker. Sometimes she might try to talk about stupid sh*t that's going on. What do I do? I CHANGE THE SUBJECT. If she doesn't get the point, I'll even tell her explicitly that I'm tired of listening to her problems. I'll tell her to go chill with her girlfriends for a while then come back and talk to me.

If she keeps on doing it, I'll either leave, ignore her, or if we're on the phone, not even hold it up (she knows I do this if she starts talking too much).

It might seem like I'm being a jerk occasionally, and maybe I am, but at least I don't have to listen to stupid sh*t!!

It doesn't mean that I don't listen to her, of course. If she is really going through something, then I'll be the most supportive person ever. But not for everyday, over-reacting, bullsh*t that is so common amongst women. She can take that to her girlfriends (or her loser guy tampon "friends").

Point is you have to train your gf not to be annoying. You must understand that most women are innately annoying to men. From my own experience, your gf will actually appreciate being put in line.
 

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Thanks for the personal insights!

Worker.. I disagree with the men dump, girls take space thing. I don't throw something away unless I know I want to throw it away. I believe stepping out of the relationship has done me wonders on taking a look at the big picture.

Phyzzle.. A lot of the drama is about her ex. (babies daddy)! He is using me for a target to get to her and she just keeps antagonizing him. There was absolutely no drama when we first started going out. Than with in the last few months she filed court papers, etc...

Do I stand my ground and deal with it if she makes me happy, or walk away from the drama "there are plenty of fish in the sea"?
 

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HEY. Here is a simple example from David D. Adopt it to every whichever fvcking drama she throws at you.


HER: I hate it when my ex looks at other women.
YOU: I'm just like your ex, I look at other women all the time (I do the same thing too).
HER: What?
YOU: That's right..... Every man is like that... You not very experienced with men, are you...... How your day? (change subject)


Picture you and her standing face to face, 10 feet apart, she throws shyt at you, you catch it with both hands, swing it around you and throw it at her.. Soooo powerful.

She finds faults with her somebody, tell her I'm the same way, or I do the same thing. Then attack the bytch and generalize, all men are like that, we all do this, you don't know a lot about men do you. Before you dump her, fix this drama problem using this method. A) You might get a good relationship with her and maybe more. B) You will learn how not to be an emotional tampon, thus you doing yourself a favor.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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just dont listen to it, the hell is so hard about that?
"her and *drama*"
you : im busy i gotta go.
 

zerocelcius

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RaWBLooD said:
just dont listen to it, the hell is so hard about that?
"her and *drama*"
you : im busy i gotta go.

Thats what I did .... Walked!
 
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