Waitress responds to AFC brother after my C+F fails

[j81]

Ok, this is a rather strange scenario I went through.

At a restaurant my brother and I were at we had this waitress that knows us well from being in there a lot. I used C+F on her and busted on her. I was confident and felt good about my game. She responded well by laughing, trying to return the C+F, and some IOIs. I wasnt real interested in her though but figured I'd practice my game a little bit since I'm still learning.

At the same time I'm doing my C+F routine and all that, my VERY AFC brother is sitting across from me smiling at her in the creepiest way you could imagine, being super ultra nice to her, giving her ridiculous compliments, and saying things like "I want to smell your perfume before I leave" (he brought this up about 4 times). His voice was anything but smooth, he was nervous, and sounded unsure of himself. So creepy it made me cringe.

So fast forward to the next week when we are there again. The manager of the place comes to us and tells us she has a crush on my AFC brother. WHAT THE HELL?? I guess AFCs arent 100% hopeless after all.

Now the girl liking him didnt bother me so much because shes an HB5 at best, what bothers me is the fact that my game failed, and his AFCness succeeded. Wow, just wow. And just for the record, people think me and my brother are twins. We look very much alike, and we are good looking. He thinks he's ugly though, but he isnt...he's an AFC of course he thinks that.

Oh, and I've tried to save my brother from AFC land. But he refuses to hear me, and says that I "have a very bad attitude toward women".

LOL, I've never seen anything like this before in my life, so lets discuss this one...

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

It's not that AFC's can't attract women, it's holding their interest after the initial attraction and the "nice guy" stuff wears off. Their frustration isn't aways because of their lack of interactions with women, it's because of the types of interactions that they have.

 

[selfmademob]

Kill ur brother, simple as that.

 

[MacAvoy]

Ever hear of a generalizing? Well this is a perfect example. A DJ isn't going to pick up 100% of his attempts. Just like an AFC isn't going to strike out 100% of the time either. Someone before said that 90% of guys are AFC, well 90% of the guys are still getting laid.

Don't be discouraged, its just one of those things.

 

[j81]

Yeah, I hear what you're all saying. But "I want to smell your perfume, dont let me leave without smelling your perfume" :crackup:

Btw, he's now IMing the crap out of her. Every time shes online he nails her with IMs. I might be a little nosey about this but I'm just so curious. This girl is really different. Too bad she isnt very good looking.

My plan with her...become friends with her. Theres a lot of HOT HOT girls that work at that place. Its networking time. He can have her, lol.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...My plan with her...become friends with her. Theres a lot of HOT HOT girls that work at that place. Its networking time. He can have her, lol.

There's the difference between a DJ and a AFC, seeing the big picture and taking the appropriate action.

 

[fruitopiax]

You said shes a 5? Well maybe youre too ****y/confident/whatever for her. If youre both good looking like you say, maybe she'd rather go for the AFC good looking guy, rather than one like you.

 

[jamescr73]

You said shes a 5? Well maybe youre too ****y/confident/whatever for her. If youre both good looking like you say, maybe she'd rather go for the AFC good looking guy, rather than one like you.

thats exactly what I was thinking. C&F works on hotter girls, because most guys are AFC's and act weird around HB8's and up. Acting C&F attracts the hotter girls because its different than what they are used to. Unattractive girls probably dont know how to act with a guy throwing C&F and probably just see it as being ****y, and ****y doesnt work at all.

You have the right idea. Become her friend, let your brother date her or whatever, then get the hookup with the hot friends.

 

[SamePendo]

So, you need our help DJing a HB5?

 

[j81]

So, you need our help DJing a HB5?

No thanks.

 

[zinc64]

Ok, this is a rather strange scenario I went through.

At a restaurant my brother and I were at we had this waitress that knows us well from being in there a lot. I used C+F on her and busted on her. I was confident and felt good about my game. She responded well by laughing, trying to return the C+F, and some IOIs. I wasnt real interested in her though but figured I'd practice my game a little bit since I'm still learning.

At the same time I'm doing my C+F routine and all that, my VERY AFC brother is sitting across from me smiling at her in the creepiest way you could imagine, being super ultra nice to her, giving her ridiculous compliments, and saying things like "I want to smell your perfume before I leave" (he brought this up about 4 times). His voice was anything but smooth, he was nervous, and sounded unsure of himself. So creepy it made me cringe.

So fast forward to the next week when we are there again. The manager of the place comes to us and tells us she has a crush on my AFC brother. WHAT THE HELL?? I guess AFCs arent 100% hopeless after all.

Now the girl liking him didnt bother me so much because shes an HB5 at best, what bothers me is the fact that my game failed, and his AFCness succeeded. Wow, just wow. And just for the record, people think me and my brother are twins. We look very much alike, and we are good looking. He thinks he's ugly though, but he isnt...he's an AFC of course he thinks that.

Oh, and I've tried to save my brother from AFC land. But he refuses to hear me, and says that I "have a very bad attitude toward women".

LOL, I've never seen anything like this before in my life, so lets discuss this one...

Some girls are just different. They have different types that they are attracted to and no amount of game will change their mind...I respect girls like that because they are actually real individuals unlike a lot of other women out there. She probaly also sincerely doesn't like ****y guys who might be *******s in her mind. I have had girls who were very attracted to me when I am being C&F but they had straight up told me that they could easily seeing me being an ******* and were scared of dating me. Ofcourse I changed their minds...but a lot of women have been burned and are looking for what they consider a nice safe guy at first. The key is confidence and not being clingy. Some girls I would be extra sweet at first and then change it up once she starts liking me to draw a challenge which all women love no matter what they say. The stradegy changes with each person.

But if your brother is texting that much and continues to say overbearing crap like that too much, she will definitely be turned off sooner or later. If I were you, i'd try to help him and tell him to keep doing what is working but to seriously tone it down BIG time before she runs and to let her contact him some first sometimes and chill out on the rediculous texting.

 

[Stéphane]

****y, and funy doesn't work on a 5, it only works on 8-10's. Because there use of the AFC atention while a 5 hardly gets it.

 

[Nygard]

"Treat the Premiums like discounts, and the Discount like Premiums"
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[JackBauer24]

Sounds to me like the OP is the AFC and is jealous of his brother, 5 or not.

 

[j81]

Sounds to me like the OP is the AFC and is jealous of his brother, 5 or not.

lol, I could easily have the HB9 at the door that stared me down with dialated pupils as I left. Yeah I'm pretty jealous of the HB5.

Just thought I'd share my experience and get some input.

And werent you recaptured by the chinese? They letting you post these days?

 

[JackBauer24]

You might not want to sleep with the HB5, but you're upset that your brother was for some reason able to attract her with his lack of game and she liked him better than you even though, by your admission, you pretty much look the same.

 

[DonJuan11]

Ok, this is a rather strange scenario I went through.

At the same time I'm doing my C+F routine and all that, my VERY AFC brother is sitting across from me smiling at her in the creepiest way you could imagine, being super ultra nice to her, giving her ridiculous compliments, and saying things like "I want to smell your perfume before I leave" (he brought this up about 4 times). His voice was anything but smooth, he was nervous, and sounded unsure of himself. So creepy it made me cringe.

So fast forward to the next week when we are there again. The manager of the place comes to us and tells us she has a crush on my AFC brother. WHAT THE HELL?? I guess AFCs arent 100% hopeless after all.

Now the girl liking him didnt bother me so much because shes an HB5 at best, what bothers me is the fact that my game failed, and his AFCness succeeded. Wow, just wow. And just for the record, people think me and my brother are twins. We look very much alike, and we are good looking. He thinks he's ugly though, but he isnt...he's an AFC of course he thinks that.

Oh, and I've tried to save my brother from AFC land. But he refuses to hear me, and says that I "have a very bad attitude toward women".

LOL, I've never seen anything like this before in my life, so lets discuss this one...

Your brother sounds sincere, you sound like you just want to get into her pants with your C+F routine. If you were a waiter and two girls were sitting there, one was busting your balls and teasing you, and the other was fairly quiet but complimenting you here and there, which girl would you fall for?

 

[TheSplat]

lol, I could easily have the HB9 at the door that stared me down with dialated pupils as I left. Yeah I'm pretty jealous of the HB5.

Prove it. Let's see a pic of you, your brother, and the two girls by the end of the week. Let's see if you can back up the talk.

 

[Aboleo]

I'm gonna' use your brother's 'AFC' pickup line tomorrow the first chance I get. I bet you it will work, too!

It isn't so much what you say, it's how you say it and what you imply. I'll give you an example, I was buying a pack of cigarettes down at the gas station the other day and the the girl working there asked me if I wanted 100's or regulars. I had just gotten off work, I wasn't paying any attention to what I was doing and before I knew it I said the following; "Long ones, short ones... I don't really give a ****. Just give me whatever." About this time, the girl starts smiling uncontrolibly and let's out a very flirtatious giggle while making heavy eye-to-eye contact with me. I hold her eye contact, smile and say, "You'd think I said something funny by your response. What are you smoking, can I have some?" "Sure" she replied, "I get off in half an hour. Lets have a smoke!"

I said something completely stupid there and for whatever reason it worked. I wasn't really even trying to start a conversation or pick her up. As a matter of fact... thats usually what works the best, IMHO.

 

[j81]

You might not want to sleep with the HB5, but you're upset that your brother was for some reason able to attract her with his lack of game and she liked him better than you even though, by your admission, you pretty much look the same.

I said I was bothered by the fact that I didnt understand why my game didnt work, and his AFCness did. I did say that. I am not in any way "jealous". But after reading some of the other posts in this thread I believe I better understand it now. She is obviously not a girl that gets a lot of attention.

I'll stick to my league...the HB7-10s. Thanks for your input...I guess.