"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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PackDaddy

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Hi DJ's, I recently just took this girl out. The chemistry is present, and so far we're into each other. I'm gonna take her out again, and am not just trying to get my d1ck wet. So how long do I wait?

By the way, at the end of the day when I went to drop her off she thanked me. She told me she had a lot of fun and then shoved her tongue in my mouth, and we groped each other. If it continues this way we're gonna f@ck real soon. However, I don't want her to think I'm only trying to F her. I also don't want to screw things up by F'ing to early. I'm so used t being a playboy that I don't know how to date now lol.

So DJs, what do I do??
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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TheException

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Wait for sex? LOOOOOOL

Dude......so she didnt even tell you like "Hey lets go slow" or "I like to take things slow"....your just trying to put some form of ban on yourself? Read the link above, heartiste is good sh1t. Dont put any time cap on it...just go with it and always be escalating. Dont force sex to happen but always work towards it.
 

PackDaddy

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Thank You! You guys are correct, 100%.

Pulled my head out of my ass. 4 words. Don't be a *****. Plain and simple.

I was behaving as if she was a gem; as if she was a scarce item. Tons more where she came from that I can choose from.

Exactly! What am I trying to do? Wife her up?! Lmao
 

Tomthebomb

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PackDaddy said:
Hi DJ's, I recently just took this girl out. The chemistry is present, and so far we're into each other. I'm gonna take her out again, and am not just trying to get my d1ck wet. So how long do I wait?

By the way, at the end of the day when I went to drop her off she thanked me. She told me she had a lot of fun and then shoved her tongue in my mouth, and we groped each other. If it continues this way we're gonna f@ck real soon. However, I don't want her to think I'm only trying to F her. I also don't want to screw things up by F'ing to early. I'm so used t being a playboy that I don't know how to date now lol.

So DJs, what do I do??
What you are saying is completely mental. be a man, have sex with her, never apologise for your make sexuality - own it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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bigneil

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As long as she shows DEFINITE signs of interest (like she has in this case) then it's ok to wait up to 2 months. After that she has another guy and/or other issues.

The Russian girl who I rented a room from in NYC made me wait 3 weeks after we met.
 

Cremasta

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If someone put your dinner down in front of you, how long would you wait to eat it?

Next date, just make sure you pick her up from her place, so you've got a good reason to be back there at the end of the night.
 
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