"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Virgin girl "LJBF" me after sex. Or something.

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Last night I went out for a drink with a friend from school. I've known her for about 3 years. We'd have lunch every now and then but she never really gave me any IOI's so I never paid much attention.

Anyhow, we came back to my place, drank a little more, then had sex. Well, sort of. We were both drunk as f**k, and she basically jumped on me. When it started getting hot, she told me to go slow, that she was still a virgin. We fooled around a little, started f***ing... and then she puked. And puked some more. We went out for a walk to get some air then she went back home. Before leaving, she told me: "We're only friends, right?".

So... What's going on? How do I hit it again? Should I ignore her/call her/kill self? I suck at this.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You ever hear about "buyer's remorse " ?

That woman was engaging in one of a woman's favorite and most popular delusions.
By saying that you and she are " just friends" she can convince herself that she is not really a drunken slvt, because "just friends" do not have REAL sex. In other words,she is contructing a reason why what happened was NOT really first time sex because she realised later that she was drunk and sick and messy and she regrets having sex like that. This has little to do with YOU.
A lot of this thinking is bizarre female reality distortion, but whoever said that woman make sense anyway.

Frankly , you and she will probably have to become B/f and G/f for her to bang you again. In her mind, you and she are then "legit".

How old are you two ?
 

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest she wasn't a virgin. Women have a tendency to tell guys what they think they want us to hear.
 

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jophil28 said:
You ever hear about "buyer's remorse " ?

That woman was engaging in one of a woman's favorite and most popular delusions.
By saying that you and she are " just friends" she can convince herself that she is not really a drunken slvt, because "just friends" do not have REAL sex. In other words,she is contructing a reason why what happened was NOT really first time sex because she realised later that she was drunk and sick and messy and she regrets having sex like that. This has little to do with YOU.
A lot of this thinking is bizarre female reality distortion, but whoever said that woman make sense anyway.

Frankly , you and she will probably have to become B/f and G/f for her to bang you again. In her mind, you and she are then "legit".

How old are you two ?
that actually makes sense...
i'm 25, she's 19.
 

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ummm... I'm going to go the opposite way here. I've had lots of virgin/near-virgin girls say stuff like this because they feel awkward about the "implications" of sex.

I've had nearly the exact same thing happen in first year of college...
Me: "let me see your room, I've never been in this dorm"
Her: "sure"
(sex)
Her: "so we're still friends right?"
Me: "yeah, definitely"
... and then more sex ensued when I ran into her at parties.

I've had this one girl, as I'm fondling her breasts, stop me and say "we're still friends, right?" I answered yes and took off the rest of her clothes. The "friend reminder" thing has happened to me enough times that I see it as more of a justification on her part.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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handle said:
ummm... I'm going to go the opposite way here. I've had lots of virgin/near-virgin girls say stuff like this because they feel awkward about the "implications" of sex.

I've had nearly the exact same thing happen in first year of college...
Me: "let me see your room, I've never been in this dorm"
Her: "sure"
(sex)
Her: "so we're still friends right?"
Me: "yeah, definitely"
... and then more sex ensued when I ran into her at parties.

I've had this one girl, as I'm fondling her breasts, stop me and say "we're still friends, right?" I answered yes and took off the rest of her clothes. The "friend reminder" thing has happened to me enough times that I see it as more of a justification on her part.
"still friends" is different than "only friends"
 

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And to the OP, I've had a girl call me "only a friend" but was all over me a couple of hours later. And she had a boyfriend.
 

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Kal0051 said:
"still friends" is different than "only friends"
Indeed it is.
 

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Who cares if she tells you that you two are only friends. What do you expect her to say. "We're a couple now?" Of course not. Just say what she wants to hear, as long as you're doing her.

If you're not emotionally attracted to her, then who cares, really.
 

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Yeah, I just want to hit it (over and over). However, I don't really know how to handle this. I usually see her once every 2 months or so, but I don't really want to wait another 2 month to hit it again.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Akuma said:
Yeah, I just want to hit it (over and over). However, I don't really know how to handle this. I usually see her once every 2 months or so, but I don't really want to wait another 2 month to hit it again.
JUst call her and suggest that you and she get together. IF she agrees, you are in like flynn,if she hemms and haws or makes excuses then forget it.
 

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JUst call her and suggest that you and she get together. IF she agrees, you are in like flynn,if she hemms and haws or makes excuses then forget it.
She made excuses. Game over. heh.
 

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I'm just gonna post my recent events in relation to this thread as opposed to just starting a new thread. I am currently seeing a girl and we hang out and cuddle. Now she's even offering to me favors like type out a book of my hand written poetry so I can publish it. Anyway, I'm more attracted to this girl's character and than her physical appearance. Maybe I'd give her a 6. Thing is while we've kissed. I don't know that I can do the did with her still partly because she's a virgin and she said she's one by choice.when we start kissing I feel like doing it. Even the first time we kissed I kinda rushed through it and she says to me "we'ill have to do this again another time" most times I hear if the kiss is bad the girl usually nexts the guy. Anyway, she seems to have high interest level but is not needy. I just can't seem to get past that I'm not that physically attracted to her. What do I do? She's one of my plates. I just worry that eventually she'd want more.
 

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Kal0051 said:
"still friends" is different than "only friends"
Fair enough, but people don't really give it that much thought when things like that blurt out. Especially when drunk. So I wouldn't get too concerned about the semantics of the situation here. Basically what I'm trying to say is don't write this one off as a rejection.
 

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Then I had another girl (plate) I had F'd 4 times telling me she felt guilty for religious reasons and just wanted us to be friends. Previously she had also implied that it seems all I want from her is sex and this is not true. Anyway, we hang out saturday to watch a movie. She didn't mind us cuddling and me touching on her. We even kissed and then later she said she had to go because if she stayed any longer she knew what would happen, lol. I told her that if it was gonna happen it would've already happened. So, some times I don't get all these virtual rules. Are friends now allowed to kiss? Lol, this is why women can't be taken seriously. If women are so confused and easily manipulated like this what good are they besides sex and starting a family. I often wonder this. Why would a man want to be with a woman if they can't even live in reality and even know what they want? Yet they say porn objectifies and ridicules women. Yet it's just how easily manipulated they are and yet confused that turns me off.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Akuma, why dont u call her, talk to her about what happened, say all the things about how first time can be nerve racking, etc, etc and then offer your services for the deed, because u know each other so well, she will be comfy doing it with you.... and try getting it that way. Make it all about her, and how u want to help her.... and sit back and reap.
 
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