"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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MoneyManHolmes said:
Don't shave it, wax it (or pluck it ouch!!) That's one of the biggest unibrows I've ever seen and you would be shaving it every day.

Also to the guy above, the only way you could not have any friends is if you are a compulsive liar or don't ever go out. I don't even try, and I have a few close friends and lots of acquaintances. Try meeting people who share a common hobby, that makes it easier for a friendship to grow.
I don't ever go out..last time I went out I was like 13 and was with my parents (I'm 20 btw)

But why go out alone? and I'm also shy (until you get to know me)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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muhuwahaha said:
I don't ever go out..last time I went out I was like 13 and was with my parents (I'm 20 btw)

But why go out alone? and I'm also shy (until you get to know me)
13????????? Damn son, if I don't go out Friday and Saturday every week, it's a lame weekend. Get out there!!!!!!

Oh, and you're either shy or you aren't. If you're shy until people get to know you, you're shy.
 

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idiots stop posting on this, the original poster hasnt even replied yet cuz hes a fake, lock this ****in thread!
 

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This is me. I try and work on my personality but the only way I can think of being intresting is to talk about myself. Most of my friends find me really boring I can tell. They come out in a good mood and by the end of the night they're bored out there minds. I cant smile with my mouth open because I have crooked teeth. This is me when Im drunk.



This is me smiling.


This is me today.

 

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Friend_ofa_Friend said:
I was a pretty ugly 20 year old virgin once upon a time,
in the last 3 years since then I have been laid over 100 times though with fit girls, which I never would have imagined when I was 20.

Anything is possible!
If that's true you should seriously consider creating a thread on this and how you did it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SteLee said:
This is me. I try and work on my personality but the only way I can think of being intresting is to talk about myself. Most of my friends find me really boring I can tell. They come out in a good mood and by the end of the night they're bored out there minds. I cant smile with my mouth open because I have crooked teeth. This is me when Im drunk.



This is me smiling.


This is me today.

Read the book 'How to win friends and influence people'. You don't seem to understand the way social interactions work.

You need to smile. A crocked smile is much friendlier then a frown.

Try cutting your hair.
 

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Yeah, you're not ugly. You probably feel ugly, but you're not. Anyway, try to relax, have fun.
 

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You are not ugly, it's just your style, appearance and the way you carry yourself that needs a complete makeover.

If you don't like your crooked teeth then see a dentist and fix it.
 
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you guys are a bunch of liars!!! you should be being brutally honest with each other, its the girls that need to be lied to and told what they wanna hear!!

Original Poster, u are ugly as hell and id run away if i ever saw u in person (and im a guy too)........and this is all YOUR OWN SELF INFLICTED UGLINESS

its YOUR fault that u wear the clothes u were, its YOUR fault that your hair is like that, its YOUR fault that u dont smile, its YOUR fault that u got that awful looking unibrow

good god, if u only knew that your APPEARANCE is being 100% totall controlled by YOU

its up to YOU to improve your looks, dont even worry about your personality until you got your appearance set straight
 

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Solid advice from all.
Something else.
Don't have goals that are results.
Instead of saying "My goal for 2008 is: Get Laid with 3 women"
Make it "Go out more, work on attracting women, talk to more women, use kino on more women". That sort of thing.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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work on yourself more....

you can look better...trim those eye brows a little,they're too thick...

and dont frown...

stop making stories...
 

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brett012 said:
and that you will some day have a wife to which you will have to explain who you lost it to.
why would anybody do that?
 

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you guys are a bunch of liars!!! you should be being brutally honest with each other, its the girls that need to be lied to and told what they wanna hear!!

Original Poster, u are ugly as hell and id run away if i ever saw u in person (and im a guy too)........and this is all YOUR OWN SELF INFLICTED UGLINESS

its YOUR fault that u wear the clothes u were, its YOUR fault that your hair is like that, its YOUR fault that u dont smile, its YOUR fault that u got that awful looking unibrow

good god, if u only knew that your APPEARANCE is being 100% totall controlled by YOU

its up to YOU to improve your looks, dont even worry about your personality until you got your appearance set straight
The eyebrows, clothes, smile ect. were already covered by other posters. :yawn:
 

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Your azz need an complete makeover there is reason why ur still a virgin at 20... but nways get an haircut definetly and get ridda that fucin unibrow! PERIOD
 

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brett012 said:
Well sure, if you're not into the whole honest relationship thing that's cool too.

hey I'm in Isla Vista.
Know one was talking about being dishonest. Just not revealing to her your privet sexual past. It always turns out bad.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I was a virgin until I was 23, then I had to pay somebody to take it away...

It has taken me a long time to figure out what I was doing wrong, and I'm still trying to work on it.

As others have said, the first thing you have to do is work on your appearance. You don't want it to be a hindering factor with women. Also smile more but this may be hard if you rarely smile. If something even slightly gives you the desire to smile, then just smile. Don't worry about your teeth. You want girls to see you as a happy friendly guy. Start working out if your aren't already. There are many benefits to exercising.

Next you need to work on your personality and confidence. Those are my current sticking points. There is a lot of information on this forum but it's kind of every where. If I find something that has worked for me I'll post it.
 

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My looks were fine but my style could have been improved and I could have used some more muscle.

Did I talk to women? No. I didn't start talking to girls until I was about 23. I just wasn't comfortable in their presence for a long time.

I also had very low confidence and self-esteem. I have greatly improved over the years but I still have a long way to go until I will get to where I want to be.
 

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ok.... first....

kino? he could kino a girl at eye level from 3 feet away with that brow!

( i say that out of love bro:crazy: , but get it gone!)

Second...

they have prostitutes on craigslist??????:eek:
 

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Muscle is mostly meant to improve the mans self-confidence but some women, I'd say most women do care. Put three men of the same race, height and facial features next to each other with no shirts on. One is skinny, one is fat and one is athletic/toned. Which one do you think a woman would choose?
 

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I've seen more fat guys with hot women than I've seen skinny guys with hot women.

Lift weights. Nothing but good comes from it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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