as always, i thought of growing up with this mentality until i woke up to women these days. what is your view of it? are kids the reason...family?...no offense but if you are married why did you do it? or what holds you back from doing it?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Guys seem to know more about cars than women. They know what makes a good car and what to look for when buying a good car but not what to look for in a good mate. This is why they marry women that will end them in divorce and make them go broke with child support.
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talk about brainwashing...no rudeness intended but look at the facts man...what are the real reasons to get married these days? look at the statistics. i just want to know why people continue to do marriage these days...just the facts. anybody with real life experience?f283000 said:
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Dunno? Tax benefits?
Children. As a father, I can say children are the only reason to get married. Children do better in everyway when they have two parents. When you are ready to settle down and have kids, try to find the best woman you can. Until then have fun.
Keeping with the car analogy, you don't buy a Mini Van before you have kids do you? You want something fun and sexy to drive. So you don't get a wife before your ready to have kids either, you want something fun and sexy to drive!
Keeping with the car analogy, you don't buy a Mini Van before you have kids do you? You want something fun and sexy to drive. So you don't get a wife before your ready to have kids either, you want something fun and sexy to drive!
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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^^^ that.Warrior74 said:
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Marriage is a good thing. Providing a stable home for your children is a must.This relies heavily on the woman.If she does listen..if she puts her effort in to support her husband in common goals then this is the key.
The problem is that most women dont respect the man of the house anymore.They expect a man to support them but when it comes to her support many seem to flake. It seems that being a supportive wife gets too hard for them. It also doesnt help when the woman seems to lose the passion either as many men arent taken care of in the bedroom either. Then he may cheat ..get caught and hes the bastard.
The downsides are many but a good woman can make or break a marriage.
The problem is that most women dont respect the man of the house anymore.They expect a man to support them but when it comes to her support many seem to flake. It seems that being a supportive wife gets too hard for them. It also doesnt help when the woman seems to lose the passion either as many men arent taken care of in the bedroom either. Then he may cheat ..get caught and hes the bastard.
The downsides are many but a good woman can make or break a marriage.
there are still some women out there who are marriage material no?
you guys are so pessimistic
I don't see marriage as a necessity, it shouldn't be a necessity
first of all it costs alot of money to raise a whole family, not that I amgreedy or money loving, I'm just saying you might lose sleep over worries about your job, savings and expenses when you have a family more than if you were single(assuming I own a home, I could live well with 400-600 $ a month being sngle )
second, you're stuck with this woman forever, most women love money and love shopping, they will spend your money the complain to you that you are not making enough they will go crazy and there is nowhere for you to run
third your children will most probably disappoint you, they might either die young in a car accident, or become drug addicts, emos, turn out hmosexuals etc... looking at society these days(and I'm not an american) chances are good that your children will embarrass you
then again there are successful marriages here and there, if I were to get married, I would like to know the woman for at least 2 years before marriage
what's the hurry after all, you'll live decades together
you guys are so pessimistic
I don't see marriage as a necessity, it shouldn't be a necessity
first of all it costs alot of money to raise a whole family, not that I amgreedy or money loving, I'm just saying you might lose sleep over worries about your job, savings and expenses when you have a family more than if you were single(assuming I own a home, I could live well with 400-600 $ a month being sngle
) second, you're stuck with this woman forever, most women love money and love shopping, they will spend your money the complain to you that you are not making enough
they will go crazy and there is nowhere for you to runthird your children will most probably disappoint you, they might either die young in a car accident, or become drug addicts, emos, turn out hmosexuals etc... looking at society these days(and I'm not an american) chances are good that your children will embarrass you
then again there are successful marriages here and there, if I were to get married, I would like to know the woman for at least 2 years before marriage
what's the hurry after all, you'll live decades together
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There are some awesome women out there.Once you find them you need luck so they stay that way
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Only reason to marry is to have kids,and I'd have a pre-nup in place first.
backbreaker
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I believe the avg guy here goes though a cycle. pook hit ont his in one of his earlier posts and i believe his is correct.
the avg guy here has been used, abused and mentally skullfvcked by the opposite sex for years.alot and i mean alot of damage has been done to the AFC's male pysche
what i am getting at is, the first reaction the avg AFC has once he finds out some basic things about the opposite sex and how the act, react and view men is go from super nice guy to the polar opposite, screw women, women are worthless, etc which is kinda what you see here
I did that. when I did some things to some women.. some families even.. that I am not very proud of for the simple fact that in the first time in my life I could. women wanted me and I fvcked anything that walked with no disregard.
The truth is, the reality is somewhere in the middle.
I pay no attention at all to marriage stisitics beucase they are too broad. how many of those guys are hopeless AFCs that are married? you need alot more imperical data than just divorice rate to get anything meaningful out of marriage stastitics
even with that said, I believe the avg guy is better off single. marriage is not for everyone. with that said I proposed to my fiancee about 3 months ago and we will be married later this year.
why?
1. I love her
2. We do have a child together
3. I wanted to
The truth is, there is not very much logic that goes into marriage. i haven't wanted to screw anyone else for a while now, I can see myself spending the rest of my life with my fiancee and not only that, I would like that very much. she makes me very happy and is the yin to my yang. we know each others quirks and we are okay with each others shortcomings.
with that said, it took me 2 and a half years to even let the possibility of me marrying her enter my mind. she knew my original stance on marriage and had accepted the fact that I was very well intent on not being married. ever. she passed alot of my "**** tests" so to speak.
there are some good ones out there. While I don't think I'm "lucky" to be with the woman I'm with.. I do feel I have a very speical gal who has more than proved her worth.
the problem with most relationships is that a woman is given too much status without earning it. My current Fiancee met me and dealt with her being one of about 4 plates and damn well knew about it. she has been patient enough with me and wanted to be with me to the point where she has went from being the woman I spend the weekends with, while she is quite knowing i'm out banging other woman, calling me and knowing good and damn well why I'm not picking up the phone,knowing I know she wants me to be with just her, to me feeling enough for her that i want to marry her.
the avg guy here has been used, abused and mentally skullfvcked by the opposite sex for years.alot and i mean alot of damage has been done to the AFC's male pysche
what i am getting at is, the first reaction the avg AFC has once he finds out some basic things about the opposite sex and how the act, react and view men is go from super nice guy to the polar opposite, screw women, women are worthless, etc which is kinda what you see here
I did that. when I did some things to some women.. some families even.. that I am not very proud of for the simple fact that in the first time in my life I could. women wanted me and I fvcked anything that walked with no disregard.
The truth is, the reality is somewhere in the middle.
I pay no attention at all to marriage stisitics beucase they are too broad. how many of those guys are hopeless AFCs that are married? you need alot more imperical data than just divorice rate to get anything meaningful out of marriage stastitics
even with that said, I believe the avg guy is better off single. marriage is not for everyone. with that said I proposed to my fiancee about 3 months ago and we will be married later this year.
why?
1. I love her
2. We do have a child together
3. I wanted to
The truth is, there is not very much logic that goes into marriage. i haven't wanted to screw anyone else for a while now, I can see myself spending the rest of my life with my fiancee and not only that, I would like that very much. she makes me very happy and is the yin to my yang. we know each others quirks and we are okay with each others shortcomings.
with that said, it took me 2 and a half years to even let the possibility of me marrying her enter my mind. she knew my original stance on marriage and had accepted the fact that I was very well intent on not being married. ever. she passed alot of my "**** tests" so to speak.
there are some good ones out there. While I don't think I'm "lucky" to be with the woman I'm with.. I do feel I have a very speical gal who has more than proved her worth.
the problem with most relationships is that a woman is given too much status without earning it. My current Fiancee met me and dealt with her being one of about 4 plates and damn well knew about it. she has been patient enough with me and wanted to be with me to the point where she has went from being the woman I spend the weekends with, while she is quite knowing i'm out banging other woman, calling me and knowing good and damn well why I'm not picking up the phone,knowing I know she wants me to be with just her, to me feeling enough for her that i want to marry her.
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I'll never get married without a prenup.sodbuster said:
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children can have 2 parents without those parents signing a government contract that guarantees that the woman gets to screw the man over financially in the long runWarrior74 said:
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Yes, and it's possible for a 40 year old man to run a 4 minute mile. It's just not likely. Factually speaking kids raised in a traditional family with parents who stay married do better in life. We can discuss why it shouldn't matter forever, the facts are as they are despite what one might wish to be true.Rescue Mission said:
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
backbreaker
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chris rock said it best:bigjohnson said:
"hell I can drive my car with my damn feet, it doesn't mean I should do it"
My dad cheated on my mom when I was 7 and had my little brother (now 19) and were divorced. my mom instead of being bitter, went out of her way to make sure i had as much of a regular relationship with my dad as possible. he picked me up from school everyday, I spent about 2-3 hours with him a day while my mom was finishing up college and he coached my basketball team. I saw as much of if not more of my dad than my mom. for a while I actually saw more of him.
I am an extremely lucky bastard as most parents would have raised world war three, mom would have been telling dad isn't ****, dad would have been telling mom isn't ****.
with that said, I am the exception to the norm.
My dad had his issues... or issue (women).. but being a father was not one of them. Even when he wasn't physically there.. let me call my dad and tell him i wanted to see him, he'd drop whatever the hell he was doing or who he was doing.. which was usually the case. I was a spoiled brat.
I guess that has played apart of why I really dont' get bitter at breakups and I generally am on talking terms with all my ex's, even the ones I don't want. If my mom can look at my dad for the rest of her life after what he did I can say hi and bye to some skank I slept with a few times when I see her or when it's her birthday.
anyone who says something to the effect of you don't have to get married to raise kids, doesn't have kids. While you technically don't have to, that's just not something that someone with kids would come out and say. My son is the most important thing on earth to me and I will do anything I possibly can to make sure he has every freaking advantage in life. While, I do understand that staying in a bad marriage is more detrimental than helpful, the idea of raising my child in a married house hold is somewhat appealing.
not a day has gone in his life where he has not seen his momma and his daddy. he cries and we are no more than a room away, one of us at least. Even if something happens to his mom and I, which I hope is not the case but reality is reality, I am hell bent on making sure he has both his parents in his life.
While I would never get married solely become of a kid, I now understand people who would.
In fact the only thing we are really waiting on to get married is for him to be coordinated and discipline enough to be a ringbarrer lol. right now he'd probbaly try to eat the ring if not throw it at someone.