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Pornography is arguably harmful from a practical standpoint also. There have been studies about how all the quick dopamine hits can mess up your ability to be aroused by a single woman or without getting freaky, it can be very harmful to relationships. Simply fapping outside of porn is less harmful IMO, but my main issue with it is that it's a waste of time. It's not productive. You see guys talk about fapping something like 10 times a day or more.

As for religion, I think most behavior that is advocated by Christianity have practical reasons behind it. It's not just arbitrarily "Don't do this because you might have fun". I can't speak for other religions because I'm not as familiar with them.
Even browsing the internet and watching tv gives you a dopamine hit.
 

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Worst thing ever, especially in high school. All boys schools set a male behind in dating. Every day exposure in high school to women is needed.
True, I was not emotionally prepared for University either. Emotional issues with women are best sorted in high school (ie.crushes, oneitis, or scoring, etc...). Not when you are paying tuitions or taking out loans or making major decisions about the direction of your life. You dont get points if you are in an honor roll on High School but make foolish decisions im University because you like a girl and hope you can eventually talk with her if you stay in a class. Brutal.
 

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Pornography is arguably harmful from a practical standpoint also. There have been studies about how all the quick dopamine hits can mess up your ability to be aroused by a single woman or without getting freaky, it can be very harmful to relationships. Simply fapping outside of porn is less harmful IMO, but my main issue with it is that it's a waste of time. It's not productive. You see guys talk about fapping something like 10 times a day or more.

As for religion, I think most behavior that is advocated by Christianity have practical reasons behind it. It's not just arbitrarily "Don't do this because you might have fun". I can't speak for other religions because I'm not as familiar with them.
Spot on man. Exactly.
 

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Even browsing the internet and watching tv gives you a dopamine hit.
Nowhere near the level that porn does though.

I know personally I just feel best when I'm off porn. I feel best when I'm getting dopamine hits by playing sports or hanging out with buddies.
 

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Nowhere near the level that porn does though.

I know personally I just feel best when I'm off porn. I feel best when I'm getting dopamine hits by playing sports or hanging out with buddies.
But if you have a large TV or projector, then @Georgepithyou might be right about that. People visit cinemas for dopamine hits. But you are younger so maybe you do have a different hit from that then when you are older.
 

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But if you have a large TV or projector, then @Georgepithyou might be right about that. People visit cinemas for dopamine hits.
I'd probably get a dopamine hit off of that projector. Dopamine and popcorn.
People also get dopamine hits off of shopping, buying stuff you want. This is why women like shopping so much.
 

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True, I was not emotionally prepared for University either. Emotional issues with women are best sorted in high school (ie.crushes, oneitis, or scoring, etc...). Not when you are paying tuitions or taking out loans or making major decisions about the direction of your life. You dont get points if you are in an honor roll on High School but make foolish decisions im University because you like a girl and hope you can eventually talk with her if you stay in a class. Brutal.
If a person does all 4 years at a single sex high school and only see the opposite sex at events between all-boys schools and all-girls schools, that's just putting them behind the curve. I agree that it is far from ideal to be sorting out basic issues with the opposite sex either in community college, university, or on the job.
 

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If a person does all 4 years at a single sex high school and only see the opposite sex at events between all-boys schools and all-girls schools, that's just putting them behind the curve. I agree that it is far from ideal to be sorting out basic issues with the opposite sex either in community college, university, or on the job.
I did not attend those events. School dances were not my cup of tea. I did have an opportunity to change schools to a public co-ed high school, but decided to just stay the course and finish at this school. While I always had a hopeful feeling that I'd meet someone in University, and while it did have its moments here and there, nothing really carried over afterwards. However, the 2012 ex-gf went to York University I guess as a consolation prize, and I did hang-out as friends with a Chinese girl just afterwards (went out to the cinema, orchestra, met for lunch/dinner but she had a boyfriend so we weren't really dating) with her so maybe it wasn't that bad.
 

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Not to mention the fact that there are hordes of weak married men with little kids. Just adding fuel to the fire at this stage.
 

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If a person does all 4 years at a single sex high school and only see the opposite sex at events between all-boys schools and all-girls schools, that's just putting them behind the curve. I agree that it is far from ideal to be sorting out basic issues with the opposite sex either in community college, university, or on the job.
thank god i found this site or else that would have been me lol
 

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No porn and no fap are the best ways to fix a real life sex problem, both in terms of the motivation to go out and get vagina and performance with a woman once you've gotten a woman back home.
I disagree with the former but agree with the latter. No porn/fap simply means even more pain when getting rejected. Performance is greatly enhanced by storing up rocket fuel. I can remember being in my mid 20s with a LDR (yes, I know :rolleyes:, although it was only temporary, and in the end fell apart when I got back) and saving up for about a week and a half before getting back to her. Man, did the muscles pumping the prostate work that day! I could feel my testes emptying out so much I was getting pins & needles there. :D

Men turn to porn/fap if their approaches are failing and the rejections are piling up.
Well, of course. :rolleyes: You seem to think that making men faplessly edgy makes them better at sarging. I disgree, as "taking the edge off" makes one be able to make better use the executive control part of his mind.
 
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You seem to think that making men faplessly edgy makes them better at sarging. I disgree, as "taking the edge off" makes one be able to make better use the executive control part of his mind.
For a while, no porn and no fap will make a man more aggressive on approaching. There will be more irrational confident and more boldness, which produces reactions in women that get their vaginas wetter. Most men watch porn and masturbate and most men are unable to approach women while sober in non-bar venues. That's not a coincidence. One example from my life was a time where I approached a woman on a walking path in my city. I got her to agree to a date and then collected her number. She flaked on the date. Many months later, she texted me to say that she flaked because she was unemployed and moved away from the city a few weeks after the approach. I was able to verify on LinkedIn that she was telling the truth because she had a job listed in another city. She told me about how she enjoyed meeting me and was really impressed by how unusual the occurrence was.

In pickup, the excutive control part is overrated. To pick up effectively, you need to be more testosterone oriented and less brainiac. You must be guided by your penis and testicles, not your brain.

No porn/fap simply means even more pain when getting rejected. Performance is greatly enhanced by storing up rocket fuel. I can remember being in my mid 20s with a LDR (yes, I know :rolleyes:, although it was only temporary, and in the end fell apart when I got back) and saving up for about a week and a half before getting back to her. Man, did the muscles pumping the prostate work that day! I could feel my testes emptying out so much I was getting pins & needles there. :D
Porn/fap is a coping mechanism. It is a bad coping mechanism. The pain of rejection should drive a man to self-improvement to get the reward of filling up a vag.

Since I do not engage in porn and fap, I am more turned on by real sex. Since I stopped porn and fap, I have tended to shoot bigger loads. Big loads impress women, especially in them. My condom use has prevented babies.
 

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For a while, no porn and no fap will make a man more aggressive on approaching. There will be more irrational confident and more boldness, which produces reactions in women that get their vaginas wetter. Most men watch porn and masturbate and most men are unable to approach women while sober in non-bar venues. That's not a coincidence. One example from my life was a time where I approached a woman on a walking path in my city. I got her to agree to a date and then collected her number. She flaked on the date. Many months later, she texted me to say that she flaked because she was unemployed and moved away from the city a few weeks after the approach. I was able to verify on LinkedIn that she was telling the truth because she had a job listed in another city. She told me about how she enjoyed meeting me and was really impressed by how unusual the occurrence was.

In pickup, the excutive control part is overrated. To pick up effectively, you need to be more testosterone oriented and less brainiac. You must be guided by your penis and testicles, not your brain.



Porn/fap is a coping mechanism. It is a bad coping mechanism. The pain of rejection should drive a man to self-improvement to get the reward of filling up a vag.

Since I do not engage in porn and fap, I am more turned on by real sex. Since I stopped porn and fap, I have tended to shoot bigger loads. Big loads impress women, especially in them. My condom use has prevented babies.
So you would rather visit hookers than fap on their ads because fapping on the ads is worst than paying and sexing them because you wont be turned on enough to pay for sex with them?
 

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Most men watch porn and masturbate and most men are unable to approach women while sober in non-bar venues. That's not a coincidence.
This is chicken & egg scenario. I posit that the men who fap aren't successful at approaches are so because they are not Chad, and therefore unsuccessful at approaches.
In pickup, the excutive control part is overrated. To pick up effectively, you need to be more testosterone oriented and less brainiac. You must be guided by your penis and testicles, not your brain.
If I were guided solely by my testicle [use of the singular case is not an error], I would be r@ping women. :rolleyes:
Since I stopped porn and fap, I have tended to shoot bigger loads. Big loads impress women, especially in them. My condom use has prevented babies.
What, do your plates look at the used condom to get a gauge of virility? In any case, unless you are doing 1NS, you would have some time to store up your sp3rm - i.e., do nofap before your date, and only if unsuccessful do you fap, then wait for the next date to release your sp3rm naturally.

Now all this said, I am someone who has an adult lifetime of BPH, so fapping is actually therapeutic. I'm also a light sleeper, and a good ejaculation makes it easier to sleep.
 

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OK, I watched the trailer. A man getting enough action this his gal to release his seed on a regular enough basis should refrain from fapping. Certainly in this situation, his porn stash should be carefully password-protected and hidden away on his hard drive; I recommend using 7Zip and then changing the file extension to nothing, and then hiding it within the morass of the Windows directory, etc. If the relationship sours, then he can go back to his default "plate".
 

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Most men watch porn and masturbate and most men are unable to approach women while sober in non-bar venues. That's not a coincidence.
This is chicken & egg scenario. I posit that the men who fap aren't successful at approaches are so because they are not Chad, and therefore unsuccessful at approaches.
I dislike the whole Chad thing. I realize there's some validity to it. The mating environment has become more competitive in the last 3 decades. The typical woman now has more options than she did in 1990-91, right before the internet took off. In 1990-91, if you were a 25-34 year old woman newly single because you had just moved to a new city, you had to go out to bars and other social events to meet men. Depending upon your looks, you'd have varying degrees of success generating interest. Now, all you have to do is put your picture up on a smartphone app and you'd generate more interest in one hour than it would take in 3 months of going out in public and having to interact with people in person. Because you have more options as a woman, you can only select the best of the best. This is why the typical woman is having sex with men far superior to her own looks and whatever else she offers. The 8+ men do even better than the 8+ men of 1990-91 were doing, the 6-7.9 men suffer to some extent and the men below a 6 suffer much more.

Even men just doing in-person approaching and avoiding the app environment are suffering now as compared to 1990-91. Due to swipe apps and social media, women have much fuller penis pipelines and are less receptive to in-person approaching. Additionally, there are more single men relative single women in 20s/30s age group now (something that became true in the early 2000s and has remained that way).

It is more difficult now to get laid as a non-elite man. Non-elite men have to drop swipe apps. Swipe apps are a waste of time for a man not in the Top 10% of men. He either needs to build a social circle (not easy to do and a lot of variables are out of his control here) or become a massive cold approacher. No fap will help with his aggressiveness on cold approaching. It is quite difficult to get good at cold approaching. The lifestyle behaviors a man needs to adopt to be a good approacher are: exercise regularly and build some muscle, no porn, no fap, and a healthy diet.

What, do your plates look at the used condom to get a gauge of virility? In any case, unless you are doing 1NS, you would have some time to store up your sp3rm - i.e., do nofap before your date, and only if unsuccessful do you fap, then wait for the next date to release your sp3rm naturally.

Now all this said, I am someone who has an adult lifetime of BPH, so fapping is actually therapeutic. I'm also a light sleeper, and a good ejaculation makes it easier to sleep.
Women I have had sex with, both plates and girlfriends, have been impressed with what they have seen in a condom after ejaculation.

I only release sperm naturally. I have nocturnal emissions and I release through sex.

When I quit fapping, I had to use medicines for a while to sleep as well as I would like.

No porn and no fap has enhanced the quality of my life.
 

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I dislike the whole Chad thing. I realize there's some validity to it. The mating environment has become more competitive in the last 3 decades. The typical woman now has more options than she did in 1990-91, right before the internet took off. In 1990-91, if you were a 25-34 year old woman newly single because you had just moved to a new city, you had to go out to bars and other social events to meet men. Depending upon your looks, you'd have varying degrees of success generating interest. Now, all you have to do is put your picture up on a smartphone app and you'd generate more interest in one hour than it would take in 3 months of going out in public and having to interact with people in person. Because you have more options as a woman, you can only select the best of the best. This is why the typical woman is having sex with men far superior to her own looks and whatever else she offers. The 8+ men do even better than the 8+ men of 1990-91 were doing, the 6-7.9 men suffer to some extent and the men below a 6 suffer much more.

Even men just doing in-person approaching and avoiding the app environment are suffering now as compared to 1990-91. Due to swipe apps and social media, women have much fuller penis pipelines and are less receptive to in-person approaching. Additionally, there are more single men relative single women in 20s/30s age group now (something that became true in the early 2000s and has remained that way).

It is more difficult now to get laid as a non-elite man. Non-elite men have to drop swipe apps. Swipe apps are a waste of time for a man not in the Top 10% of men. He either needs to build a social circle (not easy to do and a lot of variables are out of his control here) or become a massive cold approacher. No fap will help with his aggressiveness on cold approaching. It is quite difficult to get good at cold approaching. The lifestyle behaviors a man needs to adopt to be a good approacher are: exercise regularly and build some muscle, no porn, no fap, and a healthy diet.



Women I have had sex with, both plates and girlfriends, have been impressed with what they have seen in a condom after ejaculation.

I only release sperm naturally. I have nocturnal emissions and I release through sex.

When I quit fapping, I had to use medicines for a while to sleep as well as I would like.

No porn and no fap has enhanced the quality of my life.
Massive cold approaching sounds stupid. Unless you have no job or no life there is just no time for thst. Plus you have the pandemic. You mention massive which means an insane numbers game which means piles of rejection and on top you have to build muscle. Like you said all.a girl has to do, who is fat and doing nothing with her life, is go on a swipe app and pick up an 8 guy right? While you have to go through all that to a chance to get with that same type of girl and guys are supposed to feel motivated about that?

As you said before, all the women you are currently dealing with are women you met before the pandemic. Which means this is not even helping you meet anyone now.
 

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what happens when you snip a dog or cat?They get more docile porn over all is bad.Is is addictive as other vices?nicotine/sugar/cocaine not in my opinion but like everything to much of a good thing is bad.better to use self control when it come to that.
 
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