Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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samspade said:
I've had plenty of fun workplace flings. However! They always happened because the female threw herself at me. Moreover I never had mother in the same office...that would probably keep me from messing with things. In a nutshell, I never asked out a coworker that I banged (didn't have to) and I certainly would never, ever ask the mom about it.

If the 19 year old goes crazy for you and her mom somehow signals her approval (not sure how this would happen) then maybe consider it. But you cannot ask out the daughter and you cannot ask the mother. In fact if you even want to simply up her interest level you have to come across as someone who wouldn't think of such a thing while still being attractive. Yes, this also means spin other plates and be obvious about it. Basically be the attractive 41 year old gentlemen with the interesting dating life. And if you do that you probably won't need any of this nonsense anyway.
Yes indeed that is exactly what I have decided to do, pretty much to the letter that you wrote. :up: Still gonna have some fun in the office with this chick. Mom and I were also tag team busting on her today. it was a blast!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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