"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Very interesting AIM convo

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This is a convo with a girl I have been talking to with on AIM for a few months....I'm not pursuing her, but we both are just good online friends and we vent to each other....she IMs me about every day and said she feels like I'm her "best friend" so there's a lot of trust and I'm an AFC to her lol. I've seen her pic and she's probably a 7 so no ugly here. This is just rather insightful and shows what is talked about on these forums. She had been complaining about guys who try to talk to her at college.



[20:35] Me: but i am trying to be more gutsy and not care if i get shot down
[20:35] Me: cause u know what...it honestly feels pretty good to get shot down
[20:35] Me: lol
[20:35] Her: that's actually what i'm looking for
[20:36] Her: i'm looking for a guy i can shoot down once but whose gutsy enough for a second round and a means of proving he's not like those other guys who go with a whimper or mean me harm
[20:36] Her: it tells me he's socially healthy and really interested
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Not always true! In fact, most of what girls say they want in guys is not true.

Women think one thing, but feel another. In other words, women don't even know what they want in most cases.

Take for example a girl you meet who you totally take by surprise. Next thing you know, she's so overwhelmed and swept off her feet that you're sleeping with her next thing you know.

Now a girl will never say they want to be taken by surprise and manhandled. She'll never say she wants a guy that doesn't tend to all her needs, but makes her feel incredible.

Hell no, women don't know what they want. All they know is when they feel it, they feel it.
 

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Nah, girls who you've built "friend trust" with like this girl are usually pretty honest.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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interesting mine goes like this
from a total stranger girl


after talking to girls and filtering the ugly once after i see there pic


the conversation goes something like this

Me; hey brat
Her: im not a brat
Me: do you look good
Her: hell yea
Me: do you have a pic
Her; no
me; ok fine bye
me: you could be one of those guys pretending to be a girl so you can molest me
her: lol no im a girl
then she send me her pic

ME; you dont look scary
her: lol
Me; do you want to talk on the phone like a normal person
they usually pause for a while then say ok
her: ok
Me;whats your #
her: 123412341233

then i call

the real conversation is a little bit longer than that.... but thats the outline i use..... any body got a girl form aol instant messenger? this was a while ago when chat room was open to everyone
 

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Aaron B said:
why are you having these conversations?

what purpose do they serve?

is this progress?
she's an online friend i talk to, dude, i said i'm not gaming her
 

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Zero Hero said:
she's an online friend i talk to, dude, i said i'm not gaming her
then what is the relevance of the conversation you posted?

do you really think thats an insight into the female mind? Do you honestly think she has any idea how her attraction works?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Aaron B said:
then what is the relevance of the conversation you posted?

do you really think thats an insight into the female mind? Do you honestly think she has any idea how her attraction works?
Not at all.. few of them do :up:
 
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