"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Very gorgeous girl at the gym

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While I was working out yesterday I see this fine as hell hb9 walk in. I was on the bench press and she couldn't stop checking me out. She even followed me when I went on to my next exercise. Today I see her again and she keeps walking by me and staring and even works out next to me again. So how should I go about getting a little "quicky" or a blow from her? Seeing as I can't take her out or anything do to life's circumstances, I just want to get some. Hopefully this is a chance to lose my "V" card. When I turned 21 I promised myself I'd finally get a lay this year!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Get her to speak brah !

Strike while the irons hot or your magic STICK will stay WRINKLED !:box:

Get them digits man:rockon:
 

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Just be like "Geeeze I always see you here, don't think I got your name though I'm ______ " or say pretty much anything although I do agree it is hard to put in work at gym.... Although it does help if you're in crazy good shape
 

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Make a move! Make a move! Make a move! Make a move!

Unless you want this princess to go to another castle. :crackup:

BTW, get this girl off of that pedestal! She takes nasty smelly sh*ts like the one I had yesterday! :crackup:

Case closed. Take action.
 
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ya don't be like me 4 years ago and have this same scenario and not do something about it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The issue with hitting on women at the gym is the fact you are clearly interrupting them from what they came to do. The gym more than anywhere else, people don't want to be interrupted.

But if she is showing the interest you claim she is, that isn't an issue at all. You better approach! And tell us how it goes.

*NOTE: Do not go into this with the mindset of "maybe I'll lose my virginity to her". That will put too much pressure on you, and probably block you from thinking clearly about how to handle this. Just be cool about it, relaxed, like you've been there before.
 

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If she's clearly been checking you out (and this has happened on multiple occasions), next time she passes by just say "hey, what's your name" > a minute of blah blah blah > hey let's get together sometime.

It's a good way to DHV. You're not interrupting her and she's literally walking into your frame.

There's a certain finesse to "gym game". Try it.
 

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oh for the love of GAWD!

he"s not Asking for marriage, just a smile!

beta"s please refrain from interupting a hunt in progress!!
 

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Shes just teasing you,

i've had that happen millions of times,

when I approach,

they will say something rude to me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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pickin up girls at the gym is wimpish, im to concentrated on muscle mind contraction and in the zone, and getting the workout done... ur in n out, u got the rest of the day to pick up chicks.
 

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gspshields2 said:
Shes just teasing you,

i've had that happen millions of times,

when I approach,

they will say something rude to me.
Maybe you read their looks wrong. That just makes no sense.
 

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PDubb75 said:
Maybe you read their looks wrong. That just makes no sense.

What makes no sense is if this girl was interested, why wouldn't so go up and talk to him? Does she think staring is going to get her somewhere?

Do you go up to people in real life and stare at them until one of the acknowledges you?
 

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gspshields2 said:
What makes no sense is if this girl was interested, why wouldn't so go up and talk to him? Does she think staring is going to get her somewhere?

Do you go up to people in real life and stare at them until one of the acknowledges you?
You clearly don't understand women. The far majority of women do not approach. They may give signs that they want to be approached, but most will not actually approach themselves. It's "the man's job" according to them.

No one ever said women made sense. In fact, it seems to be the opposite.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Jair213 said:
ur supose to go work out at the gym...
Yeah, kind of hesitant because this is a gym and I take my workouts seriously, but she's quit a head turner!

omega05 said:
so you have no experience but want to get a quicky from her....
Yeah man, I have to learn somehow. Don't want my first time to be with an ugly chick!
 

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Jair213 said:
pickin up girls at the gym is wimpish, im to concentrated on muscle mind contraction and in the zone, and getting the workout done... ur in n out, u got the rest of the day to pick up chicks.
So you can be all tough and sit and stare while you're resting between sets, and I'll engage a girl nearby while I'm resting between mine. Clearly that's wimpish.

You can (and should) pick up women wherever and whenever you want. There's no "can't talk to women" sign at the gym, or anywhere else for that matter. You're a man. You see something you like, you find a way to make it known.

(I've picked up girls at the gym before and while it's a slightly different dynamic, especially if they're regulars, there's nothing wrong with it).
 

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Gripz, mind if I ask what these "life's circumstances" are preventing you from taking her out?
 

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PDubb75 said:
Gripz, mind if I ask what these "life's circumstances" are preventing you from taking her out?
Basically I'm a broke college student, not much disposable cash. I barely have enough for a new outfit or shoes. Don't even have a car! Luckily the gym I go to lets me have a reduced membership do to my low income.
 

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muscleman said:
So you can be all tough and sit and stare while you're resting between sets, and I'll engage a girl nearby while I'm resting between mine. Clearly that's wimpish.

You can (and should) pick up women wherever and whenever you want. There's no "can't talk to women" sign at the gym, or anywhere else for that matter. You're a man. You see something you like, you find a way to make it known.

(I've picked up girls at the gym before and while it's a slightly different dynamic, especially if they're regulars, there's nothing wrong with it).
i have talk to girls between sets but they seem to want to keep talking and every time i rest between a set i have to cut off the conversation. it happen twice with two girls i kept cutting the conversation because i make sure i get 45 seconds rest between each set they seemed to get the wrong idea or they get butt hurt due to it.. one of them seemed to keep following me everywere ****t was annoying.. i guess they both got the wrong idea as i told them both that if i keep cutting in between conversations is because i only let my self rest a certain amount of time.. never again did they spoke to me -_-
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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