"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I don't want to make this thread long because I know that I myself hate reading really long life stories. I'll just get to the important stuff.

- 27 year old virgin. Dated young Julianne Moore looking woman a couple years ago...did everything else with her, but fell in love with her and as much as I wanted to sleep with her...for me it would have been something more...and to her I was just guy number whatever that she was dating...liked me but didn't really like me or love me.

- Since then dated a shy nerdy cute prude girl for about a month...ended it.

- I myself am about a 6 or 7 and have been told as much by men and women. I'm 6 ft and lean and started working out as well. Amazed at the instant success I've had. My arms were bony like a runaway model, now after just one month's work I'm building muscle. I'm not doing it for women...I want to fill out in short sleeved shirts for myself, and the women thing isn't secondary.

- I'm nerdy, but not in the Urkel/Screech way...more in the Bob Saget way...which some women like or don't mind...some do mind...usually the douche club type women I wouldn't want anyway.

- Have tried dating sites to meet women and as most of you know, unless you're a male 10 or some firefighter or Situation looking guy, you're not going to get anything that isn't a warpig, not locally anyway. Had a few 9/10 quality milfs interested only to wimp out because of the age difference.

- I can attract the women I'd like to date...pale cute/smart looking types like Moore or Rachel Weisz looking women...but hard to find, especially in anywhere USA where I live...so I'm not worried about that, at least for now. Most of the women i notice locally are just any other garden variety 6/7/8. I'm not after really hot club types, Kim Kardasian/Megan Fox types or anything. In other words I don't feel my standards are unrealistic.

The question is...given all of this info...what would be the best route to find a woman to lose the V card with? Keep in mind, it's less about the getting off with me...I want intimacy...even small rapport where I take her seriously and don't look at her as an idiot, the cuddling, and all that stuff.

Bars aren't my scene and people there can tell that I'm clearly not interested or comfortable. I go to a small bar with friends and family and have a couple beers (I only drink one kind of beer and I hate getting drunk...been there done that.)

I'm wondering maybe jazz type lounges in the city to meet the classy milfs?

As long as she even ranks a hypothetical "6" to me (I don't go around giving exact ratings, just roughly)...I'm game, especially just to lose the V-card.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The thing is, I'm not looking to be or even capable of being a pick up artist. I'm awkward/nerdy (Bob Saget is the best real life example I can think of.)

You are right though about me having a mental movie in my mind. Basically, though, I'm afraid of getting desperate enough to sleep with a warpig or woman I'm totally unattracted to. I've seen it happen to so many guys I know...they get a taste of pvssy from women that are ugly and easy to talk to...next thing you know they're married or living with some woman with kids from a different father.

I'm just looking to get better overall in life, plain and simple. The special thing...it's just who I am. I don't care if I'm in love...I believe the word love is strongly overused anyway...but I do want a girl that I'm attracted to on some level and take seriously.

The best example is like in the beginning of the movie 40 days and 40 nights when the guy is getting drinks with this smoking hot chick...and she complains unnecessarily to the waiter about the drink being wrong...so then he's banging her and can't even get off. I don't need the girl to be Mrs. Personality...but a bad personality/vibe can totally turn me off from the most attractive of women. I remember a stripper giving me a lap dance years ago and asking what TV shows I watched, so I said Curb Your Enthusiasm, she said "Isn't that the show with Kevin Costner?"

The yoga...good idea. I've found that the lifting has branched out other things...improved posture...I can do 10 pushups the right way...whereas before I couldn't even do 5 the wrong way.

I'm actually signing up for a gym as soon as I have free time and they probably run yoga classes. (I've been lifting dumb-bells at home doing regular curls and hammer curls...also doing push ups and jumping jacks for now.)

I'm just amazed really...at how far my arms have come just in a month's work...doing a half-hour of curls and the other stuff every 2/3 days or as soon as the body has healed from the previous workout.
 
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