I don't want to make this thread long because I know that I myself hate reading really long life stories. I'll just get to the important stuff.
- 27 year old virgin. Dated young Julianne Moore looking woman a couple years ago...did everything else with her, but fell in love with her and as much as I wanted to sleep with her...for me it would have been something more...and to her I was just guy number whatever that she was dating...liked me but didn't really like me or love me.
- Since then dated a shy nerdy cute prude girl for about a month...ended it.
- I myself am about a 6 or 7 and have been told as much by men and women. I'm 6 ft and lean and started working out as well. Amazed at the instant success I've had. My arms were bony like a runaway model, now after just one month's work I'm building muscle. I'm not doing it for women...I want to fill out in short sleeved shirts for myself, and the women thing isn't secondary.
- I'm nerdy, but not in the Urkel/Screech way...more in the Bob Saget way...which some women like or don't mind...some do mind...usually the douche club type women I wouldn't want anyway.
- Have tried dating sites to meet women and as most of you know, unless you're a male 10 or some firefighter or Situation looking guy, you're not going to get anything that isn't a warpig, not locally anyway. Had a few 9/10 quality milfs interested only to wimp out because of the age difference.
- I can attract the women I'd like to date...pale cute/smart looking types like Moore or Rachel Weisz looking women...but hard to find, especially in anywhere USA where I live...so I'm not worried about that, at least for now. Most of the women i notice locally are just any other garden variety 6/7/8. I'm not after really hot club types, Kim Kardasian/Megan Fox types or anything. In other words I don't feel my standards are unrealistic.
The question is...given all of this info...what would be the best route to find a woman to lose the V card with? Keep in mind, it's less about the getting off with me...I want intimacy...even small rapport where I take her seriously and don't look at her as an idiot, the cuddling, and all that stuff.
Bars aren't my scene and people there can tell that I'm clearly not interested or comfortable. I go to a small bar with friends and family and have a couple beers (I only drink one kind of beer and I hate getting drunk...been there done that.)
I'm wondering maybe jazz type lounges in the city to meet the classy milfs?
As long as she even ranks a hypothetical "6" to me (I don't go around giving exact ratings, just roughly)...I'm game, especially just to lose the V-card.
- 27 year old virgin. Dated young Julianne Moore looking woman a couple years ago...did everything else with her, but fell in love with her and as much as I wanted to sleep with her...for me it would have been something more...and to her I was just guy number whatever that she was dating...liked me but didn't really like me or love me.
- Since then dated a shy nerdy cute prude girl for about a month...ended it.
- I myself am about a 6 or 7 and have been told as much by men and women. I'm 6 ft and lean and started working out as well. Amazed at the instant success I've had. My arms were bony like a runaway model, now after just one month's work I'm building muscle. I'm not doing it for women...I want to fill out in short sleeved shirts for myself, and the women thing isn't secondary.
- I'm nerdy, but not in the Urkel/Screech way...more in the Bob Saget way...which some women like or don't mind...some do mind...usually the douche club type women I wouldn't want anyway.
- Have tried dating sites to meet women and as most of you know, unless you're a male 10 or some firefighter or Situation looking guy, you're not going to get anything that isn't a warpig, not locally anyway. Had a few 9/10 quality milfs interested only to wimp out because of the age difference.
- I can attract the women I'd like to date...pale cute/smart looking types like Moore or Rachel Weisz looking women...but hard to find, especially in anywhere USA where I live...so I'm not worried about that, at least for now. Most of the women i notice locally are just any other garden variety 6/7/8. I'm not after really hot club types, Kim Kardasian/Megan Fox types or anything. In other words I don't feel my standards are unrealistic.
The question is...given all of this info...what would be the best route to find a woman to lose the V card with? Keep in mind, it's less about the getting off with me...I want intimacy...even small rapport where I take her seriously and don't look at her as an idiot, the cuddling, and all that stuff.
Bars aren't my scene and people there can tell that I'm clearly not interested or comfortable. I go to a small bar with friends and family and have a couple beers (I only drink one kind of beer and I hate getting drunk...been there done that.)
I'm wondering maybe jazz type lounges in the city to meet the classy milfs?
As long as she even ranks a hypothetical "6" to me (I don't go around giving exact ratings, just roughly)...I'm game, especially just to lose the V-card.