"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Valentines Day
- Thread starter Desperate
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
DeathDealer
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2004
- Messages
- 640
- Reaction score
- 0
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
Alpine
Master Don Juan
Alpine I never took you for an Aussie hater mate. Man, you guys win one little world cup and look at you, all confident and anti Aussie. Well dude, what can I say? We are everywhere and we do know everything.
Having said all that I gotta admit Australians in England can be obnoxious wankers. What other whole "Country" was ever banned from the German Beer Festival? The only thing worse than an angry Aussie is a British football hooligan.
All I can say Alpine is we should call a friggin truce and turn our attention to attacking the common enemy. Yanks. You ruled the World or so long, we won WW1 without the Yanks, lets turn our attention on beating the shyte out of Yanks.
Really dude, I am Australian and yet I can honestly empathize with where you are coming from.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
I'm not racist, I'll insult anybody. Bernard Manning 1976.
englishcrap
Senior Don Juan
U know what they say. An Ozzi is a happy Brit
Australian girls aint hard, if you have an English accent you are in like Flynne. The only thing that gets them more gooey in the fork are bloody Yanks. If a fleet hits any capital city in Australia, out they come and in they get.
Australian women are DAMN liberated. Shyte, what am I saying, Brits are pretty "out there" too.
dearsappho
Senior Don Juan
...for this reason, give her a lump of your sh1t and say you made her something all by yourself.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
You fvcking tight a$$
Alpine
Master Don Juan
So where are you going to take for Valentine's this year?
Tha Realnezz
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Sep 12, 2004
- Messages
- 1,352
- Reaction score
- 8
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
There is nothing wrong with that.. So am i, and i'm proud of it... Valentines day is just like any other day to me, the only difference is that we buy eachother something to "show"eachother how much we mean to eachother.... eventhough there are many other things that we can do to "show" eachother how much we mean to eachother, its just "cute" to buy eachother something small and spend the day doing something "special" TOGEATHER
I enjoy Valentines days Laterz...
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
That said, it's time guys take this holiday back. If she can expect flowers, you should expect a hummer. If she wants wine and rose, you should expect lingerie and her on top for a while, see what I'm getting at?
I actually proposed to my wife on Valentines Day, so I'm usually the one who gets special treatment on this holiday every year. And considering that men are expected to foot the bill for this every year I think it's high time to see a return on our investments.
I read the Valentines Day article on the frontpage of Sosuave and I have to admit I hear a lot of guys whine like little girls about not having a date for the night like this. I say this is the BEST time to go sarging for unattached chicks at bars or wherever since there's an establishing operation for most of them to expect male attention on this day. Use it to your advantage.
Kaine
Senior Don Juan
I agree and it stinks. But I actually do enjoy doing something around this period because I enjoy doing romantic things for my girls anyway.
I like the Japanese approach, there is a valentines day for each gender. On one day, the girl gifts the guy and vice versa on the other day.
Here are some methods I follow that work for me:
>>Be cheeky with it
>>Actions are louder then words. Do something, anything, just don't verbalise it or write about
>>Delay it, forget valentines day but follow up with something else expectedly
>>Play these kinds of "events" down and convey to her these days are unnecessary
Kaine
Nightspark
Senior Don Juan
dude sounds like you wanna lead a revolution against the hershies and hallmark holliday? lol my valentines days area always fkd... last year i ended up passsing out in a bar LOL.. that's the lsast time i ask a barmaid to surprise me when she's mixing a drink... strange i dont remember getting home that night ... but i got there
all in good fun.... i wonder what this year's gonna bring
Alpine
Master Don Juan
Or am I being a bit harsh?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.