"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Valentines Day
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
DeathDealer
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Centaurion
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Alpine
Master Don Juan
Alpine I never took you for an Aussie hater mate. Man, you guys win one little world cup and look at you, all confident and anti Aussie. Well dude, what can I say? We are everywhere and we do know everything.
Having said all that I gotta admit Australians in England can be obnoxious wankers. What other whole "Country" was ever banned from the German Beer Festival? The only thing worse than an angry Aussie is a British football hooligan.
All I can say Alpine is we should call a friggin truce and turn our attention to attacking the common enemy. Yanks. You ruled the World or so long, we won WW1 without the Yanks, lets turn our attention on beating the shyte out of Yanks.
Really dude, I am Australian and yet I can honestly empathize with where you are coming from.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
I'm not racist, I'll insult anybody. Bernard Manning 1976.
englishcrap
Senior Don Juan
U know what they say. An Ozzi is a happy Brit
Australian girls aint hard, if you have an English accent you are in like Flynne. The only thing that gets them more gooey in the fork are bloody Yanks. If a fleet hits any capital city in Australia, out they come and in they get.
Australian women are DAMN liberated. Shyte, what am I saying, Brits are pretty "out there" too.
dearsappho
Senior Don Juan
...for this reason, give her a lump of your sh1t and say you made her something all by yourself.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
You fvcking tight a$$
Alpine
Master Don Juan
So where are you going to take for Valentine's this year?
Tha Realnezz
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
There is nothing wrong with that.. So am i, and i'm proud of it... Valentines day is just like any other day to me, the only difference is that we buy eachother something to "show"eachother how much we mean to eachother.... eventhough there are many other things that we can do to "show" eachother how much we mean to eachother, its just "cute" to buy eachother something small and spend the day doing something "special" TOGEATHER
I enjoy Valentines days Laterz...
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
That said, it's time guys take this holiday back. If she can expect flowers, you should expect a hummer. If she wants wine and rose, you should expect lingerie and her on top for a while, see what I'm getting at?
I actually proposed to my wife on Valentines Day, so I'm usually the one who gets special treatment on this holiday every year. And considering that men are expected to foot the bill for this every year I think it's high time to see a return on our investments.
I read the Valentines Day article on the frontpage of Sosuave and I have to admit I hear a lot of guys whine like little girls about not having a date for the night like this. I say this is the BEST time to go sarging for unattached chicks at bars or wherever since there's an establishing operation for most of them to expect male attention on this day. Use it to your advantage.
Kaine
Senior Don Juan
I agree and it stinks. But I actually do enjoy doing something around this period because I enjoy doing romantic things for my girls anyway.
I like the Japanese approach, there is a valentines day for each gender. On one day, the girl gifts the guy and vice versa on the other day.
Here are some methods I follow that work for me:
>>Be cheeky with it
>>Actions are louder then words. Do something, anything, just don't verbalise it or write about
>>Delay it, forget valentines day but follow up with something else expectedly
>>Play these kinds of "events" down and convey to her these days are unnecessary
Kaine
Nightspark
Senior Don Juan
dude sounds like you wanna lead a revolution against the hershies and hallmark holliday? lol my valentines days area always fkd... last year i ended up passsing out in a bar LOL.. that's the lsast time i ask a barmaid to surprise me when she's mixing a drink... strange i dont remember getting home that night ... but i got there
all in good fun.... i wonder what this year's gonna bring
Alpine
Master Don Juan
Or am I being a bit harsh?
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.