"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Valentines day leaving me confused, help out

Grandor

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Ok this chick, i sent her flowers on her bday and she called me and really liked em etc.
that was mid janruary.

Since then we've talked a bit but not as much as id like, i let this out to one of her friends and she said 'its not like u've really tried that hard' so obviously theres somethin there.

After that this chick found out i told her friend that, she walked up and tapped me on the arm.

I jokingly asked if she did that to everyone.
She explained how she wasnt 'snobing' me but had been grounded etc and culdnt see me etc.

So i send her flowers today with a msg asking sayin:
"happy valentines day, I'd like to get to know you better, and i'd to see u sometime. call me if ur keen." (approximatly).

When she got em she sent me a msg sayin she didnt know what to say.

I msg'd her saying that i culdnt call her right now but I liked her and think it culd work etc.

Called her after and she said that she was still not sure, I said how about we just go out as friends sometime.
And she was like 'yeah friends, lets hangout' , also mentioned she wanted to get to know me better.

She seemed keen on that. So i think that she just wants to get to know me more and when shes keen we'll 'date'.

Can someone else read this differently perhaps?

I know it doesnt make too much sense what i wrote, but i can clarrify on points if needed. These small msg boxes trip me out.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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she likes you but can't decide what to do
or
shes trying to think of a way to not hurt your feelings
im so tired right now im confusing myself :eek:
 

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ok msn convo, with her friend - which was at this chicks house and she was present:

Happy Valentines day... says:
im with the girl u love
Grandor says:
hahah righteo
Happy Valentines day... says:
yer i know u do
Grandor says:
fair enough then
Grandor says:
so when r ya's goin to the beach
Happy Valentines day... says:
soon
Grandor says:
cool
Happy Valentines day... says:
u love her dont u
Grandor says:
think what u want
Grandor says:
so how was ur valentines day bianka?
Happy Valentines day... says:
great
Happy Valentines day... says:
and i know u like her dont play dumb u spent like soooo much on them roses
Grandor says:
it was worth it
Grandor says:
shes worth it
Happy Valentines day... says:
yer she just wants 2 be friends
Grandor says:
thats cool
Happy Valentines day... says:
its just *Girls friend*
Happy Valentines day... says:
*Girl* not with me
Grandor says:
ok
Grandor says:
id just like to hang out and get to know her better
Happy Valentines day... says:
yer

then she went offline about 5mins later.
That was the end of the convo...


what???
 

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She dont like you more than a friend. Next time you feel like spending money on a girl - send the money oarder my way.
 

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**** , comeon, i have to recover.
I *really* like this chick.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by Grandor
**** , comeon, i have to recover.
I *really* like this chick.
Poor guy,

Listen mate, you have to face up to it, she DOESNT like you. Take a step back and look at the situation, do you really like her? Or are you just saying that because you thought you could get her. People have a habit of liking people that they think like them (which in its own can be used as a seduction technique, but thats another matter).

So the verdict: Give up, start approaching plenty of girls and explore a little bit. In future DO NOT buy girls presents unless you are in an EXTREMELY commited relationship (IE. you are BOTH committed, not just one party). Good luck with your future exploits.

P.S. Please dont keep trying, for you own sake realise shes blown her chance and its time to move on.
 

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I dont think u guys have the full story for some reason.
 

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Yeah, the most experienced members on this board are wrong because they don't have the full story.

You're done buddy. You're not going to get over her eather. But you can thank her later for the great service she did for you. Top right, The DJ Bible. Read it.
 

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Originally posted by Grandor
I dont think u guys have the full story for some reason.
You told it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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nah you guys got it wrong.

I'll be back here in a month and we'll be goin out. u'll see
 

Capt.Jack Sparrow

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Originally posted by Grandor
nah you guys got it wrong.

I'll be back here in a month and we'll be goin out. u'll see
And I'm Mel Gibson

Move on, kid

There is plenty of girls out there, dont waste your time anymore on this one.
 

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Dude just read the Bible and come back in a month after she tells it to your face that she just wants to be friends. She's being nice dude. Or just read "My Plan Please Reply" And try that lol.

Holy ****!!! I type AWESOME WHEN IM STONED! Im like Peter Griffin with his drunken piano playing.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Don't listen to those guys - go for it. Why not? What do you have to lose (dignity aside)? We'll see what happens.

Then, seeking explanation, go read the DJB, and the answers will come.


To put it more blatantly - Read that convo yoursel. Your little precious was talking to you through that chick friend of hers.


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Happy Valentines day... says:
yer she just wants 2 be friends
Grandor says:
thats cool
Happy Valentines day... says:
its just *Girls friend*
Happy Valentines day... says:
*Girl* not with me
Grandor says:
ok

**

Isn't that obvious enough?
 

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Originally posted by Disconnect
Don't listen to those guys - go for it. Why not? What do you have to lose (dignity aside)? We'll see what happens.

Then, seeking explanation, go read the DJB, and the answers will come.


To put it more blatantly - Read that convo yoursel. Your little precious was talking to you through that chick friend of hers.
...........
Isn't that obvious enough?
I agree, I realise she was talkin thru her friend but i think shes just shy as.

but yeah i'll go for it, and see what happens
 

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Originally posted by Grandor
nah you guys got it wrong.

I'll be back here in a month and we'll be goin out. u'll see
All these situations are the same. All though i know the right thing for you to do, you probably wont do it. After all, i'm just a stranger from the internet, what do i know? ;)

Whatever we say, you will keep trying, it has happened to all of us. But i will give you this advice:

Hurry the **** up and do it, ask her out somewhere, then we you can move on earlier and you can start waking up to yourself.
 

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The Truth Hurts

Look, we all don't want to face reality.
But living in distorted paradigm of reality is...distorted.
We all think we were *IN LOVE*.

I'll even give you an example.

A teenager asked this girl out on a date. They went had a good time. The second date comes, she says to him, "my birthday is two days from now, you have something wonderful me right?" She kissed him when he left. Their first kiss. Oh how he loved her! He had to get her the most extravagant present of them all for her! After two dates, on her birthday he bought her a 100 dollar necklace. A week later he gets dumped. It "wasn't working", she said.
That teenager is me.
If this isn't good enough on my bus today, a girl says "Brandon asked me out today on a date, he also gave me a gift, but I'm not very interested in him. But...I love gifts." I asked "You're using him?." She says "no...I just like gifts...well..." I reply"YES YOU ARE USING HIM."

Don't be blinded by any girls words.
The Truth Hurts

-Mike
 

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ok im back. lets see.
you can go for it cuz you never know what the outcome will be unless you try
then...
theres a lot of girls out there no worries if she turns you down

hm.. I was literaly misleded myself to think a girl liked me when she actually didnt but im thru that
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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