"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Using her guys friends?

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I was thinking the other day if maybe you should hang out with her guy friends in order to get closer to her. I mean I'm not exactly "like" her friends in a since that i'm not a big jock type guy, although I'm better looking than most of them.

But if maybe you could hang out or try to hang out with them and maybe even make new friends. This way its like I would have a reason to hang out with that certain crowd, thus, being around her more. Advice needed
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You shouldn't be hanging with her crowd. You should be hanging with her ;)

Seriously though, I do advocate gaming her female friends a little though. That way, when she turns to them behind the scenes with questions like "I don't know about him hey, what should I do?", they'll talk you up to her. Also, coupled with a real easy, civil break up, it'll give you a shot at her friends later on too :)

Guy friends would probably be similar. The idea is that when she turns to them for advice, it works in your favour. However, this might be a little difficult if they really aren't the sort of people you hang with. Give it a go at the very least, you don't want to be seen by them to be "snatching her away from them".

However, don't hang with them as an excuse to "be around her more." You should still move her into one-on-one interactions, but if her friends are around, be friendly to them etc.

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So your saying that I should try and make friends with her guy friends or not?
No doubt about it i'm gonna get her one on one. I'm just saying that when they go out on the weekends or whatever I think that if I'm there with them, i'll be more prone to bumping into her than if I didn't.
 

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You've got your motivation screwed up. Don't go and hang with them "top bump into her", hang with them because you WANT TO. You should always be up to making new friends.

Besides, what's the status of this whole thing with this girl? Have you asked her out? Have you even spoken to her? If you've never even talked to her, then going and hanging with her friends and then going off with her will piss her friends off because you've just used them.

If you already know her and have asked her out/got her number/whatever, then organise something with her by yourselves, and skip the friends part.

If you sort of know her, but aren't really in with it, spend some time with her friends first, and resist giving her attention the first time you're with her friends. The next time, go and talk to her, close, etc.

So it really depends on your status with her. Remember, these are my opinions, you'll just have to judge the situation. Just try to create a good impression on her friends, try not to piss them off by using them to get to her, and then go one-on-one.

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Yea your right. I think I had my post a little wrong. I wasn't talking about just one girl in particular. Just girls in general. Their is like 5 or 6 thats really hot and hangs out with certain guys on the weekends (but not dating). I was just referrering to maybe that way I could come in contact more with these girls than if I didn't know her friends.

But your right again, that would be using them and that would'nt be good. I'll just play it by ear. Plus I kinda like being the guy that "stole" our girls :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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