"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Using direct game on groups of women

Cpt Caveman

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I've been making the transition to a more natural direct game. The only problem is using it on a group of women. The times I've done it the friend/friends had ****blocked me. At times I was able to overcome it but is there any real solution?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well , what are you doing when you open groups?

I know guys who open groups with stuff like "You guys seemed cool and I wanted to meet you" which always seems to me as being a bit L_A_M_E.
And it's probably not natural anyways cos natural woulda been "I saw you guys and one , maybe two of you at best are fcukable , so now I have to talk to the rest of you warpigs to get to them".
 

Cpt Caveman

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Just walking up and expressing genuine interest in one particular girl.

But I guess you are just going to have to accomodate her friends before her.
 

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select your target, then ignore

Hi Caveman,

Figure out which girl you really want, then put her out of your mind. This is the easy part. Concentrate on the anchors -- find SOMETHING interesting about them, the way they dressed or their hair. Compliment that. It's OK to express interest in the friends and boost their egos -- comes off good to the target and wins over the ****-blockers. Makes you seem like Mr. Compliment. Ignore the target for a good 3-4 minuts. Then, when you neg the target, even more effective. You've already hit it off with the pigs, they like you, but now the target isn't getting the same love. She'll come you YOU for the same treatment you gave the others. And because you started on the easy ones, the desparate ones, you're more relaxed in gathering the facts, anecdotes, and ancillary data needed to game the target effectively.
 

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Don't mack the pigs. It's too suspicious, unless you have NO value yourself. (i.e. you're ugly, out of shape, no good at conversations, etc)...if you mack straight on the pigs and display any skill, you either generate suspicion ("What is he doing macking on the fat girls? He can do better.") or just lower your own value. Game the 7s and 8s until the 9s take notice.

Works with larger groups anyway. Smaller groups feel "diminished" if one of their friends runs off with a guy and the rest don't get any. Best to have a wing to keep them engaged.

Larger groups, if one disappears, there's still enough energy to keep the group going.

Pairs? Fvck'f I know. Unless you've got a wing that can actually get the other girl interested, make a connection, get the digits, and pick it up one-on-one.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Unless you've got the looks to pull it off, direct game on a group is suicide. Direct game on a solo target is questionable enough even under good conditions. Tyler Durden method is tough for guys to pull off in an approach, particularly for guys without the looks or are just starting to get comfortable making approaches. I've seen it work, but rarely. More often than not it ends up coming off as desperate if you hesitate for a second and this is compounded in a group dynamic since you have to entertain the whole group.
 
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