"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Understanding Class and Taste

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Taste is understanding that different people are stimulated by and want for different things; class is being able to accommodate those differences.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You took an odd stance in this thread.
How so?

A "gentleman" in the context the OP wants to talk about is a cartoon character.

The dictionary definition is basically an educated male over 18 with good manners. There is no reason to make a thread about the dictionary definition of a gentleman. Its pretty cut and dry.
 
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How so?

A "gentleman" in the context the OP wants to talk about is a cartoon character.

The dictionary definition is basically an educated male over 18 with good manners. There is no reason to make a thread about the dictionary definition of a gentleman. Its pretty cut and dry.
I don't think you're giving the lady enough credit. The original post also asked about class, taste and if being a gentleman is outdated in the sexual marketplace.

I wouldn't compare a gentleman to the easter bunny i.e. I believe it's a real thing. Having said that, I also don't think being overly well-mannered will get you laid in today's society.
 

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Ok, class & taste...I was raised to be a gentleman; manners are reflexive to me; and it's definitely a quality that has its pros & cons.

Pros:
  • Generally thought of highly by older women & men in general.
  • Gives you an air of importance that can cause people to treat you with more priority than they might otherwise.
  • Super useful in the workplace; again, it makes you seem like you are used to a more elevated position.
  • Puts people at ease (in certain contexts/demographics) & engenders trust (again, in certain contexts/demographics).
  • Often puts you in a leadership position with women (as in, leveraging your body to move her through a room considerately, etc.).
  • Can make you seem mysterious--since class tends to prioritize
Cons:
  • Much less easy/congruent to sexualize interactions; impudence & crassness are super useful tools for generating sexual attraction & opening up topics of convo that a gentlemen would only ever allude to.
  • Tends to paint you in the 'provider zone' & more likely to trigger ASD. You become a guy women can envision taking home to meet her parents, etc. and won't want to risk sleeping with you too soon or possibly sleeping with you at all.
  • Can make you seem stiff & stifled in certain contexts & environments. Like a rave, for instance, or a blue-collar family BBQ.
  • Causes women to feel more self-conscious around you (and while it's good in that it often gets her qualifying herself to you, it also causes her to suppress a lot of the more--primal--aspects of her personality.
  • Any expectation of meeting a girl with similar level of 'class' is unlikely, unrealistic and more likely to engender bitterness than if you play more of the fvckboy, bang slvts & live on your own terms kind of vibe.
So I think it is a quality worth cultivating; certain girls--definitely those with good relationships with their fathers & high self-esteem & from better backgrounds--will appreciate those qualities (though often, even with these girls, you'll get more mileage introducing them post-sex than pre-sex). You get more flexibility socially & have contrast work more in your favor from being more of a cad with a sprinkling of class than you would from being a gentleman who still has sexual desires. The older the woman you're dealing with, the more effective predominantly gentlemanly behavior will be.

But if you're looking to climb, business-wise or socially, a measure of class & knowledge of etiquette is necessary at a certain point.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I don't think you're giving the lady enough credit. The original post also asked about class, taste and if being a gentleman is outdated in the sexual marketplace.

I wouldn't compare a gentleman to the easter bunny i.e. I believe it's a real thing. Having said that, I also don't think being overly well-mannered will get you laid in today's society.
I gave her credit for everything except the "gentleman" thing.

No its not a real thing. Real things are not open to interpretation. They simply exist.
 
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