"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Undateable Women
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
So you're saying because I get sex, get calls from women, who won't kiss me during sex, and get phone numbers from chykks who give me their phone numbers and are not intimidated by me ..means I am a fool for thinking I am the man??
Whatever dude..
What if my personality allows for women to feel very comfortable around me and wet in the panties at the same time, wouldn't that crush you foolish reasoning??????
You seem to think that guys are only happy when they pursue women soley for purposes that you feel are valid.....
Wrong!!!!
As long as I feel happy screwing chykks that I am attracted too, I could give a fukk if they like me ar kiss me... Bottomline I do what makes me feel happy... Call it Vanity or whatever.... I do what I do for me...
The Edge ' Some have it, and some don't '
If you call this fulfillment, then you can keep your happiness thankyouverymuch!
Oh, and here is something you really need to read:
http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32122
Not tryin to flame ya bro. But you might want to reconsider your current lifestyle after reading that link. I know I did!
If that fukkyn thread was responsible for you changing lifestyles, then good-fukkyn-shytt for you???
However I stick to what I write and say because I have lived it... So if my advice was for him to lie, then you better believe it was my best response then..
Actually, I still would tell him to fukkyn lie.... There.. Take that with a grain of salt.. If you have the porcupine ballz to respond, tell me why I should have said otherwise...
By the way when you came on this site, what did you think the idea behind it was... To play fukkyn musical chairs??? This site offers us a chance to do what the fukk ever we want to with women.. I choose to sleep with them, hence the lay guide advertised as soon as you log on.. So keep that crappy thread about dying ONS individuals to yourself...
Your holyness,
I'll leave some fukkyn advise for your self righteous and pompous self..
If you do not like a poster or post, you have the option to fukkyn ignore them or it respectively, hence the ignore button...
The Edge ' Some have it, and some don't '
Absolutely. A Man is more than a boy toy. To equate that one is a 'Man' because of how much of a boy toy he is... is to utterly destroy Man.
A Don Juan is not some social/ physical/ emotional d$ldo for women.
But here is what I do OBSERVE: I see a fleet of young men, many of whom I grew up with, embrace mediocrity. They move back in with their parents, see education and all as merely a path to a larger paycheck (which most aren't working anyway) and lack all ambition.
(No wonder universities are filling up with women!)
They do not have even real relationships. They are just boytoys for a girl here, a girl there, and that is that. They are fools thinking this is an achievement.
Older people know better.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Says who??? What reasoning gives you the slightest idea that a physical or emotional dildo for women is in poor taste???...
What makes a Don Juan who he is???...His intellect??... The quality of women he is seen associating with????His constant bragging rights beacuse his friends see him as a success in his life, career and achievements??
Bull!!
A Don Juan to me is an individual who goes for what he wants, takes what he wants and enjoys life... Granted he has responsibilities, but self gratification supercedes all.
Life is too damn short for me to sit back when I am 90 and wish I had lived for myself and not for others....
A boytoy may not sound appealing to the masses due to the social stigma attached to it.. But who the fukk cares... You may not believe this because you live in Nirvana, but there are certain guys on this planet who have presently or have had goals of being just that.. A boy toy...!! Myself included...
Does that make me any less of a Don Juan than you... Heck No..
As long as I have reached my goal..(as limited as it may sound to you)... I still feel like I am at the peak of my game..A DJ through and through..
Dude, realize that a DJ is not a clone.. We all have varying personalities, desires, rationals..etc.. And thats what makes us better than the regular skirt chaser...
I for one belive in the saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander.. If society doesn't squint at girl toys, then why the fukk should they shut there eyelids at boy toys..
The Edge ' Some have it and some don't '
You seriously need to chill out. Why get so defensive when someone offers a simple observation? Just by me implying that you may be unhappy and offering you a sincere warning, you totally lose your cool. guess I hit a nerve huh? Notice how I haven't felt the need to use profanity up until this point but you are filled with rage. Goes to show who is happy and who is a b*tch.
Don Ronny
Happiness "Some have it, and some don't"
I understand that there are plenty of guys who live life in fastlane, trying to pickup as many girls as they can, go out there, have sex, dont think about it and keep doing it.....
I agree i used to be the same way, even tho i am still a virgin (which i am choosing to be untill i fight my girl), and some days i want to go and just mack on as many girls as i want..
BUT. What happenes when you are old, with no wife , no kids , living alone and watching porn since you cant do anything else?
Who will be there for you? You fvck buddies? They dont need you, they got husbands and children who they spend their time with.
If you think this doesnt happen, i am here to assure you it does. I talked to my friend's dad about this. He told me this about my want to get laid with many girls.
He asked "Dennis (me) I know exactly what you are going after, i was just like you in my teen years. And now look at me, i am 40, with 2 sons from 2 wives, and get laid from girls at bars with no real connection.
What if instead of all this sport fvcking, you just found a girl you really had a connection with and had great time having sex and enjoying life with her? Wouldnt that make you proud of your life?"
I agree that it is VERY hard to find good girls to have a connection with you, but they are out there. If you are as good with women as you say you are, why not pick a girl and just stick with her for a year?
Oxide - "Life is too short to worry about yesterday"
HappyHobo
Banned
A Don Juan is a MAN would you say not?
Man is not to be a misused object.
Where would mankind be if all MEN were misused?
We would not have some of the great things we have now.
If all MEN pursued life through sheer pleasure I cannot imagine where MANKIND would be.
MAN is important to MANKIND. In fact, it puts the MAN in MANKIND... and without MAN .. MANKIND would not be!
To be a "boytoy" is misusing your NATURE.
MEN do not seek pleasure foremost. If what was on every man's mind was solely pleasure then we would not have inventions, technology, art, literature, sports, music, by god the list goes on and on.
What MAN DOES seek is a passion a goal. And through that passion or goal comes along the WOMEN. The passion or goal is NOT the WOMEN. The women just notice his ambition and value that they fall for that.
Im tired of buying processed fruits and vegatables... I want to grow my own!!!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
DJBen
Master Don Juan
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