"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Uncomfortable hitting on women in bars/clubs

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Why? The music is usually very loud and it is annoying to talk over the music.

It is VERY HARD to tell if the girl is with somebody. The last thing I need is some jealous guy getting in my face or sucker punching me for talking to his girl.

E.G. I see cute girls all the time in bars/clubs and I get a decent amount of looks from some of these women. However, most of the time there is a guy or two in their area who appears to be with their group.

As a general rule if there are other guys in their group, I stay away.

What is your take on this?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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stuka1939 said:
It is VERY HARD to tell if the girl is with somebody. The last thing I need is some jealous guy getting in my face or sucker punching me for talking to his girl.
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if theres a problem they will let u know. obviously dont go up to a girl who is making out / dancing with a guy

but otherwise just go and see what happens. some girls just go with guys and are club friends. i went to clubs with girls and danced with them but we hit on other people. thats what a lot of people do. its more fun when u go to a club in a group.
 
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Hitting on girls at the club is much easier for me than other places. I have hit on plenty of woman at clubs and have never got punched. If a guy says something than say I am sorry I did not know you guys were together and simply walk away. If you want to talk to girls in the club than talk to them. It is really stupid reason not to talk to a girl because your scared of getting you ass kicked.

I find it much more difficult to approach girls on the street. Coffeeshops, bookstore, etc. Everyone is sober and the game is much faster. It just seems that many people on this site say coffee shops and bookstores are a great place to sarge but to me it seems every girl is busy reading or has a b12tch shields up.
 
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stuka1939 said:
The last thing I need is some jealous guy getting in my face or sucker punching me for talking to his girl.
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now when has that ever happened to you?
 
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lookyoung said:
Hitting on girls at the club is much easier for me than other places. I have hit on plenty of woman at clubs and have never got punched. If a guy says something than say I am sorry I did not know you guys were together and simply walk away. If you want to talk to girls in the club than talk to them. It is really stupid reason not to talk to a girl because your scared of getting you ass kicked.

I find it much more difficult to approach girls on the street. Coffeeshops, bookstore, etc. Everyone is sober and the game is much faster. It just seems that many people on this site say coffee shops and bookstores are a great place to sarge but to me it seems every girl is busy reading or has a b12tch shields up.
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Do you think that it's easier in clubs because there's more things readily available to talk about or do?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Stéphane said:
It happened to me, and it haven't stopped me from approaching.
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Corvette and lookyoung, great answers! *Hi-5!*

Stop being afraid of rejection. You'll face it eventually. Don't be a creep! If you're getting checked out by those women, get off your ass and talk to them!
 
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