Ukraine war and the need for men and masculinity

[evan12]

The West woke up days a go on real thread that remind them in days of WWII , and suddenly we saw men going to army while women and children running by their life to neighbor countries. Suddenly it was forgotten all feminist dogma and the traditional roles were established again naturally.
Putin and Lavrov by their traditional masculinity challenging the west, who's female leaders number increasing day after day.
Suddenly the girls and women need protection again.
Will that be a hit to feminism , do you think the west will reevaluate their culture after this war?

[To the admin , this is not about politic , it is about sexual dynamic in war time ]

 

[zinc4]

Western media has already made it a priority to show pictures of Ukrainian women soldiering up. One famous pic of a beauty pageant winner in soldier gear has already been proven to be a picture months ago completely unrelated to this war. There are also videos of Ukrainian women hijacking Russian tanks that look bogus asf to me.

 

[Smok1nAce]

not anytime soon. Unless their was an immediate threat and people suffering, women live in their own world.

If she was stuck in the house all day and the moment she stepped outside she could face death and pain.

 

[MatureDJ]

The West woke up days a go on real thread that remind them in days of WWII , and suddenly we saw men going to army while women and children running by their life to neighbor countries. Suddenly it was forgotten all feminist dogma and the traditional roles were established again naturally.
Putin and Lavrov by their traditional masculinity challenging the west, who's female leaders number increasing day after day.
Suddenly the girls and women need protection again.
Will that be a hit to feminism , do you think the west will reevaluate their culture after this war?

[To the admin , this is not about politic , it is about sexual dynamic in war time ]

I hope that chicks in Eastern European NATO allies will definitely start thinking more that way (I'll be GeoMaxxing there ).

I started a thread about UkraineForeignLegionMaxxing (i.e., being a foreigner signing up to fight as a comrade with the Ukrainians) - the pictures of the men doing this were definitely NOT Chad-tier.

 

[Zimbabwe]

 

[MatureDJ]

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[Bigpapa]

There's a much grander strategy here guys.

The West has actually been gayed on purpose because this conflict with the East has been planned for a very long time. This is part of an agenda to collapse the West, and build a global structure on top of it.

The next step from here is China gets involved. Russia and China stream-roll the West (this is all scripted - a tiny group of men control the entire planet. Countries don't exist anymore). End result is a singular system, run on a singular currency, controlled by global bodies. A bit like what the EU Zone is now, but way more woke and even less free.

If you get svcked into this completely contrived globalist war then you probably deserve to get melted by boosters.

I think that the best example is the civil unrest in Canada , one of the most democratic countries in the world

not even the west is that free if you do not agree with their agenda

the western society got sick because it had too much prosperity

 

[Zimbabwe]

There's a much grander strategy here guys.

The West has actually been gayed on purpose because this conflict with the East has been planned for a very long time. This is part of an agenda to collapse the West, and build a global structure on top of it.

The next step from here is China gets involved. Russia and China stream-roll the West (this is all scripted - a tiny group of men control the entire planet. Countries don't exist anymore). End result is a singular system, run on a singular currency, controlled by global bodies. A bit like what the EU Zone is now, but way more woke and even less free.

If you get svcked into this completely contrived globalist war then you probably deserve to get melted by boosters.

So basically 1984? Where the whole world is one country and they are stuck in an endless war with an enemy that doesn't even exist all to keep the population under control

 

[BackInTheGame78]

The West woke up days a go on real thread that remind them in days of WWII , and suddenly we saw men going to army while women and children running by their life to neighbor countries. Suddenly it was forgotten all feminist dogma and the traditional roles were established again naturally.
Putin and Lavrov by their traditional masculinity challenging the west, who's female leaders number increasing day after day.
Suddenly the girls and women need protection again.
Will that be a hit to feminism , do you think the west will reevaluate their culture after this war?

[To the admin , this is not about politic , it is about sexual dynamic in war time ]

When their entire country is spending hours a day searching for scraps of food outside on the ground because their currency is worthless, the stores have nothing on their shelves since they have been cut off and isolated from the rest of the world and the imports they need, the banking system and myriad companies shutter their operations there, come back and let me know how this "masculinity" worked for them.

To my eyes the only thing long term it is going to do is send their country into a long dark depression the likes of which haven't been seen in almost 100 years and impoverish the people, most of whom had no idea this was going to happen and who don't want anything to do with it.

And how masculine is it to lie to your own soldiers and not even tell them what they planned to do it what the operation actually was? They all were brainwashed to think they were going to be welcomed by the Ukrainian people and they were saving them from Nazis that didn't exist. Instead they were totally unprepared for the fierceness of the fighting by the Ukrainians and they have been sabotaging their own military operations by puncturing holes in gas tanks and slashing tires on vehicles. Doesn't sound very masculine of their leaders to me. Sounds like a total b!tch move actually and the opposite of masculine.

 

[zinc4]

I hope that chicks in Eastern European NATO allies will definitely start thinking more that way (I'll be GeoMaxxing there ).

I started a thread about UkraineForeignLegionMaxxing (i.e., being a foreigner signing up to fight as a comrade with the Ukrainians) - the pictures of the men doing this were definitely NOT Chad-tier.

The foreign legion is no joke man. You be be in good shape first, ha. Sounds like an adventure, though.

 

[Zimbabwe]

When their entire country is spending hours a day searching for scraps of food outside on the ground because their currency is worthless, the stores have nothing on their shelves since they have been cut off and isolated from the rest of the world and the imports they need, the banking system and myriad companies shutter their operations there, come back and let me know how this "masculinity" worked for them.

To my eyes the only thing long term it is going to do is send their country into a long dark depression the likes of which haven't been seen in almost 100 years and impoverish the people, most of whom had no idea this was going to happen and who don't want anything to do with it.

And how masculine is it to lie to your own soldiers and not even tell them what they planned to do it what the operation actually was? They all were brainwashed to think they were going to be welcomed by the Ukrainian people and they were saving them from Nazis that didn't exist. Instead they were totally unprepared for the fierceness of the fighting by the Ukrainians and they have been sabotaging their own military operations by puncturing holes in gas tanks and slashing tires on vehicles. Doesn't sound very masculine of their leaders to me. Sounds like a total b!tch move actually and the opposite of masculine.

We just gonna ignore america supporting the Saudi invasion of Yemen, Where they have killed 320 thousand civilians? Where america helped the saudis commit war crimes?

We also going to ignore Vietnam,Laos,Afghanistan and Iraq?

Let's also remember that sanctions don't hurt the elite and just make the population suffer. For example Cuba,Venezuela,Iran and of course North Korea

 

[BackInTheGame78]

We just gonna ignore america supporting the Saudi invasion of Yemen, Where they have killed 320 thousand civilians? Where america helped the saudis commit war crimes?

We also going to ignore Vietnam,Laos,Afghanistan and Iraq?

Let's also remember that sanctions don't hurt the elite and just make the population suffer. For example Cuba,Venezuela,Iran and of course North Korea

The difference is the US knows how to play the game to get the world on its side. Russia thought they could skip this step. Didn't work out very well for them.

Sanctions absolutely hurt the elite...they are individually sanctioned. I work for a bank. Unless you don't think confiscating a 760 million dollar yacht hurts.

Putin has gravely miscalculated this and it will end up being his downfall almost assuredly. There is no coming back from this.

 

[RangerMIke]

I don't know about you guys, but I don't need my politicians to be "masculine." They are not me and I am not them.

A politician by definition is a bytch a$$ prostitute. Nothing masculine about that. The higher they are, the more fellatios they gave. Not someone I'd look up to, let alone join the army for. I lead myself.

I do agree with this. It's impossible for a person, in a free market democracy, to exhibit masculine traits. You are always selling yourself to someone.

What is happening in Ukraine has nothing to do with masculinity. With Putin for example... this entire invasion is a massive loss of emotional self control. It is no different than a person tearing up their own sh1t because they a 'mad' at someone else. Putin is acting like a weak @ss b1tch ticked because his ex is fvcking another dude. It's like a chick damaging your car because some you didn't call her.

Ukraine wants to join the EU... NATO... Russia should just say "So what... if you think you are better off going that way... good luck."

Russia right now is just one big kleptocracy, with a handful just robbing the rest of the nation blind... they replaced the Czar and Russian nobility to the communists and politburo, they then replaced the Soviets with Putin and his plutocracy. It's the same thing, only those in charge are just wearing different hats. The Russian people are like that dysfunctional chick that goes from one horrible relationship to another.

 

[evan12]

And how masculine is it to lie to your own soldiers and not even tell them what they planned to do it what the operation actually was?

It is not the first time low rank soldiers and officers don't know where they are going, Iraqi army soldiers where on borders of Kuwait for months and just before 3 hours from attack they were told we are heading to Kuwait while they were thinking it is just exercise until that moment .

Ukraine wants to join the EU... NATO... Russia should just say "So what... if you think you are better off going that way... good luck."

It is not about Ukraine , it is about sieging Russia by NATO army from all directions , beside installing missiles nears their border countries , would USA be okay if Russia installed rockets in Mexico ?

As why it is still about masculinity, do you think if present of Russia was a woman would this war be raged ? no, because female presidents doesnt look at long term , they are more interested in current than in future, and I think that what caused the West to ignore its strategic vision in exchange to current comfort of people.

 

[Barrister]

Russian culture is still very much traditional in many ways the West is not - and there are certainly aspects of it to like (I have dated a Russian woman before and there were certain things that were great about it that you don't typically get these days). But at the same time, some people, including OP, seem to have this admiration for Vladimir Putin that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It is akin to admiring Adolph Hitler. The man clearly has some mental stability issues and is attempting to subjugate an entire nation, through the destruction and killing of innocent people, for the sole sake of existing. There is very little to admire about the man.

It just goes to show that human beings will always be attracted to dictators. There is something innate in us that romanticizes a single man having lots of control and decision making - even if it is in reality a very dangerous and lethal combination when on a mass scale.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Women are dumb and won't give up feminism that easily. Explanation: women keep trying to be bold doing things men do, and end up getting injured or dying. Too many women acting like men, so this won't go as well as one thinks.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The man clearly has some mental stability issues and is attempting to subjugate an entire nation, through the destruction and killing of innocent people, for the sole sake of existing.

Ukraine is one of the most openly and biggest human trafficking nations in the world. The government is literally in on it. There are no innocents in Ukraine.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I started a thread about UkraineForeignLegionMaxxing (i.e., being a foreigner signing up to fight as a comrade with the Ukrainians) - the pictures of the men doing this were definitely NOT Chad-tier.

I'm inclined to think that most of these "foreign legion" types went to Ukraine precisely for that reason (hoping for an easy lay) and don't intend to do any actual fighting. It would be interesting to see if they ever get deployed (and what happens to them once they are).

 

[Bokanovsky]

Ukraine wants to join the EU... NATO... Russia should just say "So what... if you think you are better off going that way... good luck."

Geopolitics don't work that way. Imagine if Canada or Mexico wanted to joint a military alliance with Russia or China and have their troops stationed next to the U.S. border. Do you honestly think that America would simply say "so what, good luck" and NOT invade and prevent that from happening??

NATO is not a "we must accept anyone who wants to join" club. Most countries would not be allowed to join even if they wanted to (do you think that NATO would accept India or Pakistan as members, for example?) Ukraine has no strategic significance for NATO. The only reason to have Ukraine in NATO is to humiliate Russia, as well as Putin personally.

That is why the war in Ukraine is a manufactured crisis. Putin was deliberately provoked. He is an idiot for allowing himself to be provoked and doing what he did, but that does not absolve the provocateurs of their share of responsibility.

 

[RangerMIke]

It is not about Ukraine , it is about sieging Russia by NATO army from all directions , beside installing missiles nears their border countries , would USA be okay if Russia installed rockets in Mexico ?

To believe this you have to believe that NATO and the EU is a threat to Russia. Just because you THINK NATO is a threat, does not make it so. NATO and the EU is not a threat to the Russian people, these organizations are threat to Putin, his oligarchs, and the kleptocracy they have established. The invasion of Ukraine is completely unjustified, if weapons from western nations have been given to Ukraine, it is because Putin invaded Ukraine 8 years ago, sponsoring an insurgency in the Eastern Oblasts and annexation of Crimea. They were able to do this because Ukraine was basically unarmed in 2014, now they are, WHY... because they were attacked first.... and Russian soldiers are discovering that it isn't so easy rolling over an unprepared military.

Your Mexico analogy is illogical. The US is not massing troops on the Mexican border. We have not annexed any Mexican territory since the Mexican-American War in over 170 years. So if the Russians started putting offensive weapons in Mexico today, then yes, we would have a right to be concerned. But unless the Mexicans took military action against the US an invasion of Mexico would not be an appropriate response.