"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Ugly Friends

Christick

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Hey guys, I doubt any of you will remember me as it's been a long time since I posted. Not really sure how many posts I have yet but I've been reading the site anonymously for some time and have started to attempting to pick up the ways of a DJ again. Hoping you could address a question I had though:

I was wondering what you guys thought about ugly friends. I mean how could you use them to your advantage/disadvantage? Is it worth trying to game them to get closer to their friends or is it an overall bad idea? What do you think about a girl's ugly friends?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hughman

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I presume you mean ugly female friends.

I have no true ugly female friends. Then again, I have a very harsh filter on whom I consider to be friends, male or female.

You have to make sure they are diffused in order to not ****block you. Flirt now and again with them. Still be ****y and funny. Just don't neg! Equally, use talking to them as a way of 'ignoring' the hotter women. They go nuts when they think their ugly friend has something they don't.

Women work differently to guys - every girl that finds you attractive, is another bonus to your attractiveness to other women. It's a catch-22. But one that you should use.
 

Christick

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Oh, ok I like that, catch-22.
Yeah I'm talking about ugly girl friends of an attractive girl that you're trying to game. Was wondering if you guys have any stories of how you may have used them to your advantage or things to stay away from with them.
 

I'm in the Mood

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Ugly girl friends...
Man if you want to use a friend to get another girl, the only thing you can really do is have her hook the two of you up. This could easily backfire and blow up in your face.

Anyway, why would you game an ugly girl if you don't like her????
Game the girls you want! Dude it's common sense. You shouldn't treat girls any differently whether they're pretty or ugly.

If you want to "use people" then use yourself. That's all you really need!
 

DJ Axton

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Don't go for the ugly girl, obviously. Only go for the girls you want. Just remember that a girl will always need the approval of their friend (no matter how ugly the friend) before dating a guy, so you need to be on good terms with the friend.

Occasionally, if you get the fit/fat girl combo (think teenage Rachel and (fat) Monica in Friends), then you COULD get the fit one by hitting *lightly* on the fat one - the fit one'll think "Why isn't he hitting on ME?". But that only works with somewhat shallow girls who wouldn't be good for a long-term relationship.

And if all else fails you could always go for the old Seinfeld Switch... Man I would love to try that one day. ;)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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