"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Ugly Friends

Christick

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Hey guys, I doubt any of you will remember me as it's been a long time since I posted. Not really sure how many posts I have yet but I've been reading the site anonymously for some time and have started to attempting to pick up the ways of a DJ again. Hoping you could address a question I had though:

I was wondering what you guys thought about ugly friends. I mean how could you use them to your advantage/disadvantage? Is it worth trying to game them to get closer to their friends or is it an overall bad idea? What do you think about a girl's ugly friends?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Hughman

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I presume you mean ugly female friends.

I have no true ugly female friends. Then again, I have a very harsh filter on whom I consider to be friends, male or female.

You have to make sure they are diffused in order to not ****block you. Flirt now and again with them. Still be ****y and funny. Just don't neg! Equally, use talking to them as a way of 'ignoring' the hotter women. They go nuts when they think their ugly friend has something they don't.

Women work differently to guys - every girl that finds you attractive, is another bonus to your attractiveness to other women. It's a catch-22. But one that you should use.
 

Christick

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Oh, ok I like that, catch-22.
Yeah I'm talking about ugly girl friends of an attractive girl that you're trying to game. Was wondering if you guys have any stories of how you may have used them to your advantage or things to stay away from with them.
 

I'm in the Mood

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Ugly girl friends...
Man if you want to use a friend to get another girl, the only thing you can really do is have her hook the two of you up. This could easily backfire and blow up in your face.

Anyway, why would you game an ugly girl if you don't like her????
Game the girls you want! Dude it's common sense. You shouldn't treat girls any differently whether they're pretty or ugly.

If you want to "use people" then use yourself. That's all you really need!
 

DJ Axton

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Don't go for the ugly girl, obviously. Only go for the girls you want. Just remember that a girl will always need the approval of their friend (no matter how ugly the friend) before dating a guy, so you need to be on good terms with the friend.

Occasionally, if you get the fit/fat girl combo (think teenage Rachel and (fat) Monica in Friends), then you COULD get the fit one by hitting *lightly* on the fat one - the fit one'll think "Why isn't he hitting on ME?". But that only works with somewhat shallow girls who wouldn't be good for a long-term relationship.

And if all else fails you could always go for the old Seinfeld Switch... Man I would love to try that one day. ;)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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