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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
LOLAtom Smasher said:Feminists.
I never really thought about any sort of list but maybe thats not a bad idea.loveshogun said:My big four for LTR, for example, are:
1) Emotional stability - ability to see life as reality rather than drama, her feelings don't change at the drop of a hat
2) Independence - doesn't need me to do anything that she should do for herself
3) Proximity - before the internet and phone, we never would even think of having a long distance relationship. Just because the situation has changed doesn't mean the human hunting instinct hasn't.
4) Trustworthy - if I need to, I have to be able to trust this person with my life.
If a girl doesn't bring those 4 things, I can't seriously consider an LTR with her.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Exactly. Also, if she mentions an abusive ex or an ex that is still stalking her, I run for the hills.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:1. Girls who have dated bad boys(criminals, drug dealers, losers) in the past
So True, nice guys always finish last.Robert28 said:women who throw themselves a pitty party when you first meet them- these are the girls who tell you "i can't meet a nice guy", "ive never had a guy buy me flowers", "i just want a guy to treat me good". sounds easy right? don't fall for this trap!!!! what shes really saying is she bangs guys on the first date, second date at the latest. guess what? none of them ever bought her a damn thing or "treated her right" but they still banged her. buy her flowers, kiss her ass, tell her how lovely she is and how lucky you are to have met her and watch her not be interested in you at all and then go bang some jerk next weekend. seen it a million times, had it happen to me plenty. live and learn my friends, live and learn.
there's alot more but people have covered most of them. these are just two more i wanted to add.
Robert28 said:here's the types of women i've learned to avoid.
liberal women- not trying to offend any of you liberals on here, but liberal women are the worst! they SAY they want to find a man that can hold a "discussion" but that only means he must agree with all of her views and everything she says. different opinion be dammed! she's right, she will always be right, and everyone that doesn't agree with her or see things her way are "dumb rednecks" or "uneducated". you'll spot these a mile away because they'll come right out and tell you who they are, theyre usually never happy though, they always seemed pissed off about everything.
women who throw themselves a pitty party when you first meet them- these are the girls who tell you "i can't meet a nice guy", "ive never had a guy buy me flowers", "i just want a guy to treat me good". sounds easy right? don't fall for this trap!!!! what shes really saying is she bangs guys on the first date, second date at the latest. guess what? none of them ever bought her a damn thing or "treated her right" but they still banged her. buy her flowers, kiss her ass, tell her how lovely she is and how lucky you are to have met her and watch her not be interested in you at all and then go bang some jerk next weekend. seen it a million times, had it happen to me plenty. live and learn my friends, live and learn.
there's alot more but people have covered most of them. these are just two more i wanted to add.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Fair enough. It's best to just avoid those kinds of debates when running game. Sadly, there are some people (on both sides) who insist on bringing those subjects up.handle said:Your description of "liberal women" just sounds like stubborn, brash women who don't know how to have a fun conversation... And who happen to be liberal.
Correct.
I've met plenty of grating conservatives too who don't seem to understand that I'm not interested in talking about where I stand on social issues when we're just grabbing a drink.
Absolutely right, you included all the pointsbigneil said:Women to avoid:
1) BPD
2) Alcoholic
3) Molested as a child (sexual issues)
4) Drug user
5) Smoker
6) Cheater
7) Barfly
8) Doesn't love her father
9) Just got out of LTR/Marriage (esp. if they were dumped)
10) Bisexual (it just means general infidelity)
11) Facebook junkie (low self esteem)
12) Cougar (will hit on any guy with an ID)
13) Mean spirited
14) Someone who mainly dates guys because "they are hot" (shallow)
15) Still involved with ex who abused her and/or cheated on her
16) Slept around
17) Too many tattoo's
18) Fake lips, boobs, etc.
19) Too much makeup
20) Cares too much about her cell phone
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You beat me to it. These women are TOXIC, and begin PREYING on men once they realize their kid needs a REAL MAN for a daddy. Suddenly the games STOP. They are useful, however, as comparisons to single women, just to show that these women are CAPABLE of better behavior, but won't engage in it until life forces them to.Kailex said:Single Mothers.
And by proxy, I'll speak for BigJimbo and just say 99% of American women.![]()
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.