"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Turned down a girl that was begging for it

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We were partying after the bar. I went to one of the bedrooms to answer a BC on my cell- she was too drunk to drive and so was I :( total bummer.

So I just hang up my cell and next thing I know the one HB5 is there. Now I am pretty drunk- but still not interested. So after talking to her for a while I roll over and try to go to sleep. She starts saying she wants to get laid, I just kind of laugh and try to go to sleep. She then says take your cloths off already! I just laugh again and she says- what does a girl have to do to get laid around here! I laugh and says its late just go to sleep, she says well I am going to at least cuddle with you then and we both go to sleep.

Why did I turn her down? Because she is only a HB5, not in good physical shape and even though it would have only been a ONS I just couldn't do it. All I could think about was the hot drunk BC that I was missing out on and there was no way I was going to settle for a HB5.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I've done it, I feel bad later for missing an easy lay, but I feel better knowing I didn't lower my standards.

Granted, there's plenty of HB5s I would hit, but I wouldn't lay one I'm not attracted to just because its there.
 

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Thanks for sharing that with us bugs. YOU are the Man!!! If I didn't worship God already, You would be next on the list!!! All Hail Bugs!!!

Is that what you were fishing for?
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
I've done it, I feel bad later for missing an easy lay, but I feel better knowing I didn't lower my standards.

Granted, there's plenty of HB5s I would hit, but I wouldn't lay one I'm not attracted to just because its there.

I have also been in this position and my mind plays with me. Its like should I bang her... Put another notch on my belt. But then Common sense says no shes ugly it is not worth it.


I look at it like this- Face,tits,butt. If a girl is excellent in one of these traits I will bang them. You got to be careful with ugly chicks because they will develop oneitis for you it is just not worth it.

You should have at least got a BJ.was she to ugly to give you a BJ?
 

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lookyoung said:
You got to be careful with ugly chicks because they will develop oneitis for you it is just not worth it.
Damn straight. This is a big deal when you might know the girl or she knows people you know.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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realsmoothie said:
Damn straight. This is a big deal when you might know the girl or she knows people you know.

LOL you don't want people to know you banged her. Especially your friends and hott girls. I let a fat chick that I met at bar take me out to the car and give me a BJ. One of my friends still brings it up to me. LOL
 

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lookyoung said:
LOL you don't want people to know you banged her. Especially your friends and hott girls. I let a fat chick that I met at bar take me out to the car and give me a BJ. One of my friends still brings it up to me. LOL
Well... yeah... but girls talk. And sabotage.

I once made out with this semi-nonhot girl at a bar I go to all the time, she gave me her number (I was at this point like OOPS) and I never called.

Since then I see her there all the time... and I swear to God she flashes me the evil eye constantly and talks bad about me if she can.

Sometimes social proof works the WRONG way... :(
 

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I once got high and bang the fattest girl in school, she is so fat that we call her "the eight wonder of the world". i could remember her last words to me was "don't forget me in the morning", lucky she wasn't stalking me after the act and i acted like a complete stranger to her in school, we stopped saying hi by the end of the semester, another plus was she's a one semester study abroad. I never told the story to even my closet allies.
She co*kblocked me for he rest of the semester though.... well i learnt my lesson.
 

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damnbugs said:
she says- what does a girl have to do to get laid around here!
Lose 20 lbs, get plastic surgery or offer cash?

Seriously tho, an HB5 with beer goggles on = HB3 sober. :eek:

Girls need to stop feeling entitled to sex.
 

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wayword said:
Lose 20 lbs, get plastic surgery or offer cash?

Seriously tho, an HB5 with beer goggles on = HB3 sober. :eek:

Girls need to stop feeling entitled to sex.
LOL- Lose 20 lbs- thats what I was thinking!

Well I think HB8-10 are indeed entitled to sex- sex from ME!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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damnbugs said:
LOL- Lose 20 lbs- thats what I was thinking!

Well I think HB8-10 are indeed entitled to sex- sex from ME!
no, no, no.. make HB8-10 earn it too.. Remember, you are the prize.... :rockon:
 

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Flabbergasped? said:
Granted, there's plenty of HB5s I would hit, but I wouldn't lay one I'm not attracted to just because its there.
I'm not sure if you understand the numbering system.

Are you attracted to HB5s or not? If you are attracted to some that you insist are 5s then the others are lower than 5 on your scale.
 

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edit: ignore this one i double clicked for some reason due to old age
 

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wayword said:
Lose 20 lbs, get plastic surgery or offer cash?

Seriously tho, an HB5 with beer goggles on = HB3 sober. :eek:

Girls need to stop feeling entitled to sex.

I've never had this experience. Girls are just as ugly when i'm drinking.. only difference is that i'll tell them so. often. and freely.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've been on both ends of the spectrum. I've done girls I'm not proud of and I've passed on girls I who wanted me and weren't that hot. It makes no difference. You won't care for more then a day or so and there's nothing loss or gained. You'll find tons of opportunites to nail good lookingirls so don't worry about nailing or not nailing the ones you don't like. It's just mindless filler between the good times in your life.
 

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lookyoung said:
I have also been in this position and my mind plays with me. Its like should I bang her... Put another notch on my belt. But then Common sense says no shes ugly it is not worth it.


I look at it like this- Face,tits,butt. If a girl is excellent in one of these traits I will bang them. You got to be careful with ugly chicks because they will develop oneitis for you it is just not worth it.

You should have at least got a BJ.was she to ugly to give you a BJ?
Would you bang a fat girl with a nice face?
 

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green69 said:
Would you bang a fat girl with a nice face?
No, I take what I said back I wouldn't LOL... I cannot do a fatgirl. Maybe if she is 20 pounds over, and has huge tits and proportioning. more than that forget about it.
 

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logicallefty said:
no, no, no.. make HB8-10 earn it too.. Remember, you are the prize.... :rockon:

Your right- they do have to earn it too. But when I make them beg for it- they end up getting it and sometimes a bit more, funny what you can convince a girl to do when you have control of the situation!
 

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n00bPimp said:
That chick must've been pretty frustrated after that.

Who knows/ who cares- I had no problem falling asleep!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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