"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Trying to find a way to deal with a flaky girl.

LogicFalls

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Hello everyone, looking for advice on how to deal with a woman that plays too many head games. First off I met this woman about 2 months ago and things have were going great. Great sex, and great communication. She used to text me several times a day and I would always respond within a resonable amount of time (usually within 2 hours). We selpt together again 2 weeks ago and it was great. Then all of a sudden she started being flaky. For example she said she was going to come over last weekend and even called to say she was on her way. When a few hours past I try to call her and get the VM. She never shows up and calls me the next afternoon saying sorry she feel asleep. (We usually meet up late at night since I work in the evenings). I said its ok since I know she works in the morning. This happens again on the next day and again she uses the same excuse. Then the texting/comunication slowed down. Almost to one or two a day and she would take almost all day to respond. I tried using the step away treatment, and mirrored her actions. The last few days have been hell. She would call me at night and want me to stay on the line with her for 1-2 hours untill she was ready for bed saying she would call me the next day during the morning, then nothing. I would try to call her and get her VM, I would then text her 1 time and wait, and then nothing all day or night untill I got home. I'm sort of fed up with this game. I didn't contact her last night, but i tried once today. She responded several hours later to say sorry she was sick. My question is if she wants me to be around whats with the mixed signals? She says she wants to spend time with me and will do so this tuesday when she starts her vacation. I don't know if I should end this game, or give her a chance to make it up to me. She just texted me about an hour ago and I'm thinking I should just go no contact maybe to show her I have a life of my own that does not rotate around hers. What would you guys do?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Unbridled_Phoenix

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You know the answer. And if it doesn't work out, remember the lessons you learned from this one:

1. Too much communication. NO TEXTING, this is one I see guys doing all the time, and you need to STOP. Stop spending your days worrying about whether some girl will respond to your text. Was that too c&f? What did she mean by that? GET A LIFE. When you are getting to know a girl, the phone is your ENEMY. Use it only to set up a date or party or whatever. Constant phone contact makes you too available--->no challenge---> probably needy too= death of female interest and attraction.

2. You were not in control of the frame. You didn't set boundaries, were too available, and allowed her to tool you around. You have much work to do, grasshopper.

I see you are new here. Read the DJ Bible and every Article and Tip on the homepage, then come back to the forums. Read everything on this site, the wealth of information here will first shock you, then awe you, next is anger & disillusionment, then you are working towards being who you want to be.
 

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LogicFalls said:
Hello everyone, looking for advice on how to deal with a woman that plays too many head games. First off I met this woman about 2 months ago and things have were going great. Great sex, and great communication. She used to text me several times a day and I would always respond within a resonable amount of time (usually within 2 hours). We selpt together again 2 weeks ago and it was great. Then all of a sudden she started being flaky. For example she said she was going to come over last weekend and even called to say she was on her way. When a few hours past I try to call her and get the VM. She never shows up and calls me the next afternoon saying sorry she feel asleep. (We usually meet up late at night since I work in the evenings). I said its ok since I know she works in the morning. This happens again on the next day and again she uses the same excuse. Then the texting/comunication slowed down. Almost to one or two a day and she would take almost all day to respond. I tried using the step away treatment, and mirrored her actions.

The last few days have been hell. She would call me at night and want me to stay on the line with her for 1-2 hours untill she was ready for bed saying she would call me the next day during the morning, then nothing. I would try to call her and get her VM, I would then text her 1 time and wait, and then nothing all day or night untill I got home.

I'm sort of fed up with this game. I didn't contact her last night, but i tried once today. She responded several hours later to say sorry she was sick. My question is if she wants me to be around whats with the mixed signals? She says she wants to spend time with me and will do so this tuesday when she starts her vacation. I don't know if I should end this game, or give her a chance to make it up to me. She just texted me about an hour ago and I'm thinking I should just go no contact maybe to show her I have a life of my own that does not rotate around hers. What would you guys do?
1 - If a girl you're having sex with not answering your text right away is your definition of "hell", you'll be in for a surprise if you're ever a Prisoner of War

2 - How are you going to end this game? There is no way you will end it if continues to give you sex, don't fool yourself.

3 - Do not value this girl so much just because she's giving you sex. You're putting way too much stock into her. You're not husband / wife or gf / bf, she doesn't owe you anything and vice versa.
 

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LogicFalls said:
Hello everyone, looking for advice on how to deal with a woman that plays too many head games. First off I met this woman about 2 months ago and things have were going great. Great sex, and great communication. She used to text me several times a day and I would always respond within a resonable amount of time (usually within 2 hours). We selpt together again 2 weeks ago and it was great. Then all of a sudden she started being flaky. For example she said she was going to come over last weekend and even called to say she was on her way. When a few hours past I try to call her and get the VM. She never shows up and calls me the next afternoon saying sorry she feel asleep. (We usually meet up late at night since I work in the evenings). I said its ok since I know she works in the morning. This happens again on the next day and again she uses the same excuse. Then the texting/comunication slowed down. Almost to one or two a day and she would take almost all day to respond. I tried using the step away treatment, and mirrored her actions. The last few days have been hell. She would call me at night and want me to stay on the line with her for 1-2 hours untill she was ready for bed saying she would call me the next day during the morning, then nothing. I would try to call her and get her VM, I would then text her 1 time and wait, and then nothing all day or night untill I got home. I'm sort of fed up with this game. I didn't contact her last night, but i tried once today. She responded several hours later to say sorry she was sick. My question is if she wants me to be around whats with the mixed signals? She says she wants to spend time with me and will do so this tuesday when she starts her vacation. I don't know if I should end this game, or give her a chance to make it up to me. She just texted me about an hour ago and I'm thinking I should just go no contact maybe to show her I have a life of my own that does not rotate around hers. What would you guys do?
u have to think of the worst case..somebody else is hitting that and probably has a better d$ck than yours!
 

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yup someone else is gaming her and ****ing her in ways she likes better. If things go sour with that guy (or girl) she may be back, but next this chick
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Go cold on her whilst you find some other girls, if she really wants you she would be apologising and more
 

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I see this question all the time on the forums and honestly, I'd have to say this is a symptom more-so of too much micro-managing and not enough macro-management. In other words you're spending too much time, brain power, and emotions on one girl and it's driving you absolutely insane.

It's as if you invested all your money into one stock, when it moves up, you feel free, when it moves down, you feel like absolute sh*t.

Same principle applies to pick up, instead of focusing on one girl, you need to be actively pursing say 4-5. It's a little difficult when you start out, but if you consistently go out at least twice a week (as a good PUA should be), you should have enough phone numbers to keep you occupied. Plus, you won't be stressing out over one girl and WORRYING about being needy, because you genuinely won't be, you will ACTUALLY have other girls your working on.

I'm not a giant fan of the "fake it till you make it" approach, just be genuine and congruent with what you're doing"
 
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