Ken785
Master Don Juan
What im looking for is advice on how i can detach her from him?...Iceberg said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Tough situation guys...
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
cordoncordon
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By walking away. That will either make her realize what she is losing in you and she will come running, or if she stays with the guy, will make you realize where her priorities lay...IE with him.Ken785 said:
Either way you win. This staying with the girl while she's with him just lets her have her ****cake and eat it too.
Ken785
Master Don Juan
I think she thinks the benefits of her staying with him and the "partnership, and his helping her " is too good to her right now...
Should i just keep hitting it until this guy cant stand it anymore and leaves? (if ever he will)
Should i just keep hitting it until this guy cant stand it anymore and leaves? (if ever he will)
cordoncordon
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No. Not as long as you want her to leave the guy...IE have feelings for her. Only hurting yourself. Plenty of single girls with no baggage out there.Ken785 said:
Ken785 said:
Here's what you do. Take her to Las Vegas and pay all the expenses. Get really drunk and stumble into one of those wedding chapels. Say, "Let's get married." Like it's a joke and it would be funny.
When you both sober up, tell her you're so happy to have her as your lawful wedded wife.
Voila!
She's yours and only yours. :rockon:
Cheers!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Ken785
Master Don Juan
I'll admit that i am attached. I think besides the fact that shes sleeping with us both, she says she doesnt want to hurt either of us....besides that...shes hard to find. She cooks, cleans, is caring, smart, ambitious and family oriented...overall great girl if you minus the situation. I want her for myself, yes.Danger said:
I refuse to just walk away and "let him have her"...id rather keep fvcking her and make his life miserable and not left him have peace.
Get a grip Ken..while u still can. This girl is crazy. The other guy is a big time loser. Probably a nice guy..but he got it bad. This girl is ruining his life. Can this guy even look himself in the mirror and call himself a man? It is just so depressing man. You don't want that to be you. Deal with the pain and let her go.
Knocking on a womans door after a man just finished shafting her and he is lying naked next to her has got to be one of the most humiliating undignifiying experiences in life for a man.
This guy really doesn't have anything over you. You are at the point where u can walk a away. Just do it.
I know this guy seems like a real chump. But the reality of the situation is that this could turn dangerous at any moment.
Knocking on a womans door after a man just finished shafting her and he is lying naked next to her has got to be one of the most humiliating undignifiying experiences in life for a man.
This guy really doesn't have anything over you. You are at the point where u can walk a away. Just do it.
I know this guy seems like a real chump. But the reality of the situation is that this could turn dangerous at any moment.
cordoncordon
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Yep this is exactly the type of situation you read about, (in fact it just happened not long ago-was all over the news) where a guy goes nutso and does a murder suicide. Taking out his girl and anyone she has slept with.Delly2000 said:
NOT worth the trouble.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
This thread is a perfect example of why guys need to be on top of their game and spin plates, if this chick was high quality she wouldn't feel forced to settle with someone she wouldn't want too but more importantly OP would walk away and have self-respect. Someone needs to link Pook's "You are the prize" thread here
oh and OP is far from Alpha, if he was he'd walk away
oh and OP is far from Alpha, if he was he'd walk away
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^Second the motion. NOW is the time to "quit while you are ahead.". Cash out your chips and leave the casino.cordoncordon said:
A "beta" that is pushed to brink is more dangerous than an "alpha."
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
DMSR76
Senior Don Juan
I get the feeling this is gonna end badly. Hope I don't see this story on Dateline.
Ken785 said:
Huh?
Man.................... No offense but you're a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
This guy is not what's holding back the greatest romance since Romeo & Juliet. She's playing two AFCs and you think he's the biggest obstacle? Time for a reality check.
It's her!
Obviously, you're determined to be a lamb being led to slaughter. Don't insult us by making your fellow chump the root and focus of all your problems.
Personally, I think you're beyond help. Still, good luck in your venture. You'll need it.
Cheers!
Ken785
Master Don Juan
Maybe youre right, I think the reason for my resentment towards him is i think we would have been together had he not started crying when she met me. Thats where i place the blame, but i guess i resent her too...the further this goes on...the more of a piece of meat she is to me, maybe its because shes so nice to me and does stuff for me like a GF, so im attached.romangod said:
Maybe its the pvssy or her 34 Ds....who knows, im addicted.
Ken785
Master Don Juan
You guys cant be serious...DMSR76 said:
I'll start spinning more plates, but i'll keep her on the back burner anyway.
Ken785
Master Don Juan
Ok guys...i told her via text...I told her i needed "that conversation with her", face to face...she thought i was texting her to tell her i want a relationship and to choose. She texted "Im sorry, im not ready to make a choice". Then i hit her with "Im walking away, no need to respond. Take care"
Something to that effect.
Something to that effect.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
The only way this behavior would be acceptable is if this girl is way hot. Then I could see putting up with all the bull****. But if she's less than an 8, then you sir, are a chump.
Ken785
Master Don Juan
I have high stands as far as looks...believe me..she is...why do you think ive been messing with her for a year?Serialized3 said:
Why do you think the other chump is head over heals for her and didnt leave when he caught us in bed??
Personally, I don't agree with this. Because a girl is hot is no reason to give up your dignity and self-respect.Serialized3 said:
Allowing yourself to become a chump because a girl is an 8 or better goes against everything. Putting her on a pedestal and having "oneitis" is not healthy no matter how hot she is. IMHO
Cheers!
Buddha_Mind
Master Don Juan
KEN -- WALK AWAY MAN!
Please GOD you may go through some withdrawl and slight relapse but WALK AWAY.
Do Not Allow Yourself To Care About This Girl.
You Are Being Used!
^^do you get it yet??^^
Please GOD you may go through some withdrawl and slight relapse but WALK AWAY.
Do Not Allow Yourself To Care About This Girl.
You Are Being Used!
^^do you get it yet??^^
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.