"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Cool. So I guess that makes this thread, and the advice given to you by caring posters, completely useless then, doesn't it?
What im looking for is advice on how i can detach her from him?...
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Ken785 said:
What im looking for is advice on how i can detach her from him?...
By walking away. That will either make her realize what she is losing in you and she will come running, or if she stays with the guy, will make you realize where her priorities lay...IE with him.

Either way you win. This staying with the girl while she's with him just lets her have her ****cake and eat it too.
 

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I think she thinks the benefits of her staying with him and the "partnership, and his helping her " is too good to her right now...

Should i just keep hitting it until this guy cant stand it anymore and leaves? (if ever he will)
 

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I think she thinks the benefits of her staying with him and the "partnership, and his helping her " is too good to her right now...

Should i just keep hitting it until this guy cant stand it anymore and leaves? (if ever he will)
No. Not as long as you want her to leave the guy...IE have feelings for her. Only hurting yourself. Plenty of single girls with no baggage out there.
 

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Ken785 said:
What im looking for is advice on how i can detach her from him?...

Here's what you do. Take her to Las Vegas and pay all the expenses. Get really drunk and stumble into one of those wedding chapels. Say, "Let's get married." Like it's a joke and it would be funny.

When you both sober up, tell her you're so happy to have her as your lawful wedded wife.

Voila!


She's yours and only yours. :rockon:


Cheers!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why on earth would you want this girl? The fact that you want the other man out of the picture *shows* us all that you do have feelings for her, despite not admitting it.

This thread is a perfect example of people who ask for advice and do not take it. Why are you even asking then??

You are asking us how to keep this girl for yourself. Our collective answer is, we will not help you with that because it is not a worthwhile investment.

You have serious inner game issues (confidence) if you are willing to put up with this $hit.
I'll admit that i am attached. I think besides the fact that shes sleeping with us both, she says she doesnt want to hurt either of us....besides that...shes hard to find. She cooks, cleans, is caring, smart, ambitious and family oriented...overall great girl if you minus the situation. I want her for myself, yes.

I refuse to just walk away and "let him have her"...id rather keep fvcking her and make his life miserable and not left him have peace.
 

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Get a grip Ken..while u still can. This girl is crazy. The other guy is a big time loser. Probably a nice guy..but he got it bad. This girl is ruining his life. Can this guy even look himself in the mirror and call himself a man? It is just so depressing man. You don't want that to be you. Deal with the pain and let her go.

Knocking on a womans door after a man just finished shafting her and he is lying naked next to her has got to be one of the most humiliating undignifiying experiences in life for a man.

This guy really doesn't have anything over you. You are at the point where u can walk a away. Just do it.

I know this guy seems like a real chump. But the reality of the situation is that this could turn dangerous at any moment.
 

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Get a grip Ken..while u still can. This girl is crazy. The other guy is a big time loser. Probably a nice guy..but he got it bad. This girl is ruining his life. Can this guy even look himself in the mirror and call himself a man? It is just so depressing man. You don't want that to be you. Deal with the pain and let her go.

Knocking on a womans door after a man just finished shafting her and he is lying naked next to her has got to be one of the most humiliating undignifiying experiences in life for a man.

This guy really doesn't have anything over you. You are at the point where u can walk a away. Just do it.

I know this guy seems like a real chump. But the reality of the situation is that this could turn dangerous at any moment.
Yep this is exactly the type of situation you read about, (in fact it just happened not long ago-was all over the news) where a guy goes nutso and does a murder suicide. Taking out his girl and anyone she has slept with.

NOT worth the trouble.
 

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This thread is a perfect example of why guys need to be on top of their game and spin plates, if this chick was high quality she wouldn't feel forced to settle with someone she wouldn't want too but more importantly OP would walk away and have self-respect. Someone needs to link Pook's "You are the prize" thread here

oh and OP is far from Alpha, if he was he'd walk away
 

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Yep this is exactly the type of situation you read about, (in fact it just happened not long ago-was all over the news) where a guy goes nutso and does a murder suicide. Taking out his girl and anyone she has slept with.

NOT worth the trouble.
^Second the motion. NOW is the time to "quit while you are ahead.". Cash out your chips and leave the casino.

A "beta" that is pushed to brink is more dangerous than an "alpha."
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I get the feeling this is gonna end badly. Hope I don't see this story on Dateline.
 

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Ken785 said:
I refuse to just walk away and "let him have her"...id rather keep fvcking her and make his life miserable and not left him have peace.

Huh?


Man.................... No offense but you're a few fries short of a Happy Meal.


This guy is not what's holding back the greatest romance since Romeo & Juliet. She's playing two AFCs and you think he's the biggest obstacle? Time for a reality check.

It's her!


Obviously, you're determined to be a lamb being led to slaughter. Don't insult us by making your fellow chump the root and focus of all your problems.


Personally, I think you're beyond help. Still, good luck in your venture. You'll need it.



Cheers!
 

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Huh?


Man.................... No offense but you're a few fries short of a Happy Meal.


This guy is not what's holding back the greatest romance since Romeo & Juliet. She's playing two AFCs and you think he's the biggest obstacle? Time for a reality check.

It's her!


Obviously, you're determined to be a lamb being led to slaughter. Don't insult us by making your fellow chump the root and focus of all your problems.


Personally, I think you're beyond help. Still, good luck in your venture. You'll need it.



Cheers!
Maybe youre right, I think the reason for my resentment towards him is i think we would have been together had he not started crying when she met me. Thats where i place the blame, but i guess i resent her too...the further this goes on...the more of a piece of meat she is to me, maybe its because shes so nice to me and does stuff for me like a GF, so im attached.

Maybe its the pvssy or her 34 Ds....who knows, im addicted.
 

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I get the feeling this is gonna end badly. Hope I don't see this story on Dateline.
You guys cant be serious...

I'll start spinning more plates, but i'll keep her on the back burner anyway.
 

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Ok guys...i told her via text...I told her i needed "that conversation with her", face to face...she thought i was texting her to tell her i want a relationship and to choose. She texted "Im sorry, im not ready to make a choice". Then i hit her with "Im walking away, no need to respond. Take care"

Something to that effect.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The only way this behavior would be acceptable is if this girl is way hot. Then I could see putting up with all the bull****. But if she's less than an 8, then you sir, are a chump.
 

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The only way this behavior would be acceptable is if this girl is way hot. Then I could see putting up with all the bull****. But if she's less than an 8, then you sir, are a chump.
I have high stands as far as looks...believe me..she is...why do you think ive been messing with her for a year?

Why do you think the other chump is head over heals for her and didnt leave when he caught us in bed??
 

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Serialized3 said:
The only way this behavior would be acceptable is if this girl is way hot. Then I could see putting up with all the bull****. But if she's less than an 8, then you sir, are a chump.
Personally, I don't agree with this. Because a girl is hot is no reason to give up your dignity and self-respect.

Allowing yourself to become a chump because a girl is an 8 or better goes against everything. Putting her on a pedestal and having "oneitis" is not healthy no matter how hot she is. IMHO


Cheers!
 

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I don't understand how someone who's been here for 7 years can be this much of a chump and doesn't even realise it.

Self-respect can't be taught, sadly.
 

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KEN -- WALK AWAY MAN!

Please GOD you may go through some withdrawl and slight relapse but WALK AWAY.

Do Not Allow Yourself To Care About This Girl.

You Are Being Used!

^^do you get it yet??^^
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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