"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
CDL truck drivers do have a degree, too, but it's from truck driving school, which takes about 2-3 weeks. Truck driving is one of the last occupations where somebody can make an above-average living almost straight from high school. $40k/yr is a reasonable estimate, which is about double the median salary in the US. But of course it's also a pretty miserable job, which is why they're always hiring.
1.c.d.l- once you see how much they cost to get one your jaw will drop. you have to realize also there are several variations of CDL. getting your hazmat is nice but it ain't cheap and it ain't easy.elite7 said:
2.plumber- if you own your own company you can make some money, working for someone else you ain't gonna get rich by no means.
3.sales- this can be true but the secret is you have to be able to sell. i couldn't sell a heater and heavy jacket to an Eskimo.
4.military- ha! they want you to think they make money but the reality is without a degree you'll be lucky to make Sgt Major, and that takes YEARS to achieve.
5.event planner- you better be top notch if you want to succeed in this line of work. reputation is everything, so don't expect to start out making the big $$$. takes years and years to get a good name in the business. be ready to work your @$$ off.
6.Insurance broker- see my comment about sales.
7.pastor (I almost gagged when I found out how much they make).- acctually they have to go to seminary school and then it depends on what church they place you in. my pastor makes $18,000 a year and has to preach at 3 different churches on a Sunday. he gets a house, but he has to pay his own utilities. we don't give him a car either.
8.pawnshop owner- you better know alot about all kinds of stuff. get burned a few times and you won't be in business long.
9.private eye- you better be good at this, expect to work LONG hours, dont have a family, don't think anything about putting yourself in danger, and don't expect to have work all the time.
10.commercial diver- depends on the company you work for or if you drive for yourself good luck maintaining your $200,000+ rig. diesel aint cheap and the government has regulated this industry to death. you can make $60,000 a year but don't expect to have a home life.
I think the best type of sales you can get into is cell phone sales. The only companies I would consider good would be direct corporate dealers. All of them but T-Mobile will be at least $40K a year. I tried getting in with them for a while but was never able to around my area.
I would in a similar type business now but will probably be getting a job at a corporate U.S. Cellular.
Another nice part about these types of companies is if you are REALLY good and perform well(and get along with your bosses) there is room for advancement, which is really cool.
[Edit]: Also, Robert. Holy sh1t! You guys are really cheap with that pastor. He does 3 jobs on Sunday and only gets 18K year and you guys don't even give him a car and he has to pay utilities? Dang. Harsh gig. I would do it for 18K if I got a house(with utilities) and a car.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
might have payed good once upon a time....but i know many of them who own their own trucks....and are crying right now....and it's not just the working conditions.Bible_Belt said:
Sir Psycho Sexy
Senior Don Juan
Just being a paramedic is in high demand in many large cities. About 12 months of training but starting salary is only around 30-35K
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If you go this route, get the Paramedic cert. I've tested with many fire depts, as certified as an EMT, you are competing against 1000's of others for a spot. I've been accepted twice, to have both academies cancelled for budget cuts. If I went with a Paramedic, I have no doubt I'd be on an Engine right now (I did well testing).Sir Psycho Sexy said:
However, I never liked the medical aspect, I wanted to fight fire. So, I refuse to become a Paramedic.
That being said, it's a great job. The most exciting thing I've ever done, biggest rush, was taking a hoseline into a burning building. Nothing like it.
I highly recommend going this route, but you must enjoy medical stuff. Get the Paramedic. That's the ticket to getting hired. My two bits.
ROTC or Office Training School actually look for degrees & you advance to an officer relatively quickly.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
LiveFreeX
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CDL <-- this job is HARD work... don't jump in unless you are single and want to make a good buck. Don't make this your life. I have my ACZ, only ever drove rig a short while but its a damn hard life.
Welder <-- good money, toxic gas... if you aren't careful you can fuk yourself up. Put a wire through my hand once.
Pilot <-- Expensive
Chopper Pilot <-- REALLY expensive.
Nurse <-- 2 years of college and good money (friend's sister did this and now she is making 60k/year)
A+/N+/CCNA <-- Can get you a computer networking job
Programmer <-- If you are good and you've taken a few city college courses you can still nail down a good job.
Salesman <-- Big Bucks if you got the skills.
Flight Attendant
Police Officer
Cruise ship Deck Crew www.cast-a-way.com
Forklift Driver / Raymond Reach Driver ($150 for the license/training)
Chef/Cook
Entertainer / Busker
Tradesman: Mechanic, Plumber, Electrician, Roofer, Heavy Equipment Operator, Elevator Tech, Carpenter, Truck Mechanic ($$$), Forklift Mechanic, Welder, Mold Maker, CNC Programmer... you can make a REALLY good buck if you are employed in a big city with a trade.
Oil Rig Roughneck - Huge Money
Miner - Huge Money
Park Ranger
Farmer
Factory Worker
Bartender
Deck Hand
Security Guard
Manager
Limo Driver
Court Reporter
Small Business Owner
Just as a side note for anyone wanting to get a few years education on the cheap. You can go to the Philippines and pay $1000 for a year long course, taught in English in just about anything. Also have shorter introductory courses in trades requiring a bit of school to enter.
Not having a degree is not the end of the world.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
2. Pimp
I'm joking of course, crime doesn't pay in the long run but you are missing some very lucrative albeit niche jobs.
1. Vallet parker. Depending on the establishment, 60-80k is reasonable.
2 Fitness model. Again this is VERY niche but your manager could land you good contracts.
3. Waiters See vallet
4. Repo spotter this one is iffy because you almost need to have pi like qualities and quality driving skills. Even then getting "rich" isn't easy.
5. Tow truck driver. Looooong hours but a speedy hitch man can make 5k a month depending on the town.
There are lots of in demand or specialty jobs that pay well with minimal education but there are conditions like location to consider.
You watch way too much tv. Pimps? Not exactly what you see on tv. Most lucrative prostitution rings are run by ethnic gangs (even in America). And I am not talking about Mexican gangsPRMoon said:
. Drug dealers make little money as well unless they are deep within a place like Mexico and heavily protected by their own little militia. In America you see the pawns of the operations. Poor, stupid kids who end up in prison for life. Real life is NOT a rap video! I would advise you young guys to find a gay sugar daddy who has a wife and kids. Very common in that community for wealthy "supposed" straight men to be on the "down low". He will take you on trips, pay for high-end clothing, and even get you a nice apartment. Best of all, it is legal and won't get you into any trouble!
Stay safe...Stay clean...Stay legal....Go Gay!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...es-sex-tuition-college-students_n_938155.html
There you go. A link to get you going!
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Second off it's just as easy to find a rich divorcee or widow and wh*ring yourself out to them as opposed to "going gay". They won't be 10's all the time but they're out there so compromising your sexual orientation a rather unnecessary not to mention extreme measure.
2. Sales. Sales is the #1 way to make money in this world. I'm not talking about selling for other people either.
3. Insurance- I believe the insurance verticle is the #1 ad spender with Google the market is huge. Insurance Sales actually isn't a "hard close" most of the job is finding people who actually desire the benefits of your insurance product, not hard closing every Tom, **** and Harry who will listen to ur life insurance pitch.
4. Internet Marketing. You can make a very good living doing internet marketing, literally the sky is the limit. However, you must pay your dues, there are a lot of resources which will tell you the wrong things to do, lots of trial and error, but once you get it down, you can make an incredible living.
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backbreaker
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my dad owns a janitorial service in little rock, he cleans up 2 doctors offices and a peanut butter factory and makes about 5=6 grand a month.
witht hat said, the peanut butter factory is pretty ****ing big and takes about 3 hours to do right and it has to be stripped/waxed once a month
my very first job ever was cleaning up a building for his company, a metropolitan bank. took all of 30 minutes a night and i was making 600 a month.
if you learn how to properly strip and wax a floor, you can easily pocket a grand a month by stripping and waxing floors on the weekend. i used to strip and wax my old barber shop for like 250 bucks and it was so small i could do it in less than 2 hours.
most people can work a regular job and clean a building on the way home from work and easily pocket 400-600 extra a month
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.