"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Poonani Maker

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SinJester said:
Every 'guru' has something to offer, some more than others. Just see what you like, and if you like it and it works don't worry about what anyone else says. Try a few and take what you need from them, just as long as you are going out and trying there stuff and getting experiance. You will quickly find out what works for you.
That's true. If it makes sense to YOU and adds different branches of what you can DO in 'real world' situations. Some of these gurus' stuff only works on women who live in a specific region of the world/us, like LA - totally different breed there, then say, Memphis, TN = mostly lesbians, REAL sleazy, or church-goers.

I tend to absorb Swinggcat's stuff more readily because the women where I'm at are more often than not, superficial, materialistic, and beautiful or fine-as-Hell ******dly much like LA chicks where Swinggcat lives, walks, and gained experience, habits, and observations from.

Visual LA women are different than auditory MEMPHIS women.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hypnotica gets my vote:)
Are you for real?

What stuff of his helped and how did it do so?

I have sphinx of imagination and deep phone seduction but wasn't very impressed at all.
 

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Swinggcat is good too.

Thats true when you say that it depends on the type of women you are gaming for. Thundercatt and Gambler are some I like though. I think Thundercatt is the only one that really shows how even a NICE guy can get girls by changing some of his NICE behaviours. It suits me, LOL. I am not that nice guy that you visualise but I am soft and quiet, and the too harsh ones or hard on you ones are not for me.
 

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I like Swinggcat and Carlos Xuma. Carlos Xuma gave me the mindset that will allow me to react to almost every situation possible. It's the "If you were the leader of a tribe 10,000 years ago, how would you react?" Other seduction ebooks elaborate almost every single situation you could face, but this mindset is much more flexible and efficient.

I like Swinggcat because his techniques are very good to use on long term relationships with the women you actually want to get with.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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War Against Betaism said:
I like Swinggcat and Carlos Xuma. Carlos Xuma gave me the mindset that will allow me to react to almost every situation possible. It's the "If you were the leader of a tribe 10,000 years ago, how would you react?" Other seduction ebooks elaborate almost every single situation you could face, but this mindset is much more flexible and efficient.

I like Swinggcat because his techniques are very good to use on long term relationships with the women you actually want to get with.
Carlos is damn good. I also think ultimately being a quality man gets you quality girls. Swinggcat is very basic in his teachings and gets to the root while he resorts to very bold techniques. suitable for bold girls mostly.
 

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It has to be Mike Pilinski from www.highstatusmale.com

He has a unique approach to this whole seduction stuff, in a way that men can relate to.

Most seduction gurus now are derivative of other methods. There is nothing that original any more.
 
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