logicallefty
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"I need to spend time with my kids."
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Top 10 words of an uninterested woman
- Thread starter El Payaso
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
U should never be hitting up a woman with a kid
Mike32ct
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I'll take some exact ones I remember...
1. "Maybe we'll get back together. Maybe we won't."
<That was 11 years ago, and she hasn't called back yet. I should check my voicemail again to be sure lol.>
2. "I want to get a bunch of people to go to xyz."
<I don't want to be alone with you.>
3. "I'm dating now."
<Does that mean I'm not included?>
4. "Sorry I'm kind of tired tonight. A friend came over last night, and we talked all night. But umm umm we slept in different rooms."
<Can't make this up.>
5. "You're everything I ever wanted in a guy, but I like bad boys."
<She's only 35. She'll grow out of it in 45+ years and be ready for a "beta provider" to help raise her great-grandkids lol.>
1. "Maybe we'll get back together. Maybe we won't."
<That was 11 years ago, and she hasn't called back yet. I should check my voicemail again to be sure lol.>
2. "I want to get a bunch of people to go to xyz."
<I don't want to be alone with you.>
3. "I'm dating now."
<Does that mean I'm not included?>
4. "Sorry I'm kind of tired tonight. A friend came over last night, and we talked all night. But umm umm we slept in different rooms."
<Can't make this up.>
5. "You're everything I ever wanted in a guy, but I like bad boys."
<She's only 35. She'll grow out of it in 45+ years and be ready for a "beta provider" to help raise her great-grandkids lol.>
Young_Don
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I've gotten the "maybe we can be together in the future" line before and the "you're perfect, just not for me".
Both classics. Both tell me I'm never seeing/speaking to this girl again unless I miraculously bump into them in public.
Moving on*
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
logicallefty
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So true. I think a starving lion would give up its kill before a woman between 18 and 45 would give up her precious phone. She might miss a like for her latest selfie by an orbiter.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Glassguy
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"I love you but the timing for me just isnt right".
The same chick texted me 2 months later and asked to meet up for a drink. My response:
"I loved you but the timing for me isnt right. I'm seeing someone else. You're too late".
The same chick texted me 2 months later and asked to meet up for a drink. My response:
"I loved you but the timing for me isnt right. I'm seeing someone else. You're too late".
This sh*t again? It doesn't matter if your plates have kids.
Who said anything about dating?
Oh god don't get me started with this one.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
this!, i'm all up for never get close to a woman with kids, but if she want to open her legs to you and she is still hot, go for it, just don't fall for her or ever take her serious
nismo-4
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AttackFormation
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11. "You're nicer than I thought"/"You're not as c0cky as I thought"
No pvssy for you.
No pvssy for you.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.