Took two AFC's out to a club tonight, and guess what

[sharpshooter]

Oh god, it was horrible. First they kept blabbing on about how they were gonna pick up so many chicks, get laid etc etc. As we got closer and closer to the club their moods dramatically changed.

such comments like this were made by them:

"oh, the girls there are gonna be too hot for us"

"all the hot white girls aren't gonna like us"

(they're mexican like myself, yet i'm shorter and darker...but you don't see me making these comments)

"we're gonna feel out of place"

"only the muscular white guys will get *****"

"what if a hot chick in there has a disease"


They defeated themselves before they even got in the club. It really pissed me off and started to change my mood. I was trying to pump them up and instill some confidence in them but they kept denying it, shooting themselves down. They in particular kept worrying about "white" girls not liking them, in specific. They wanted to go to an all latin club i guess. I on the other hand was pushing for an all around normal club where there are people from every nationality. I kept using myself as an example to them, by telling them to look at me. I'm shorter, darker, but my charisma, attitude and confidence is so much higher than theres. On the way back they kept talking about school, school, and girl like chitter chatter (about girls of course, they talk about the same girls over and over and over, typcial AFC behaviour). When I talked about confidence, charsima, attitude, body language they totally laughed it off and one of them was like "so how come you don't have a girlfriend then and I do." At the end of the night I totally felt like I couldnt' hang out with these guys anymore. I used to be able to, but unless I can change their ways, I really can't have fun with these guys anymore the way I want to. Wow. I used to be an AFC, but it was never to that extent. The sad thing is they're fun guys, really fun, but they can't stop putting girls up on that pedestal.

ssssswear to god I had more fun last week ALONE (my first time at a club and it was laced with failures) than I did today when I took these guys out.

 

[ScrewIt]

no matter what, dont try to change ppl if they desire no change.

my friends for example, i have a part time job and lots of acquaintances and have better social skills than they do.
i try to suggest jobs to them and tell them how to be more succesful in life. but they just rub it off and ignore me.
they're thinking "why are u tryin to teach me?, i dont need your help."

most ppl desire no change, and most ppl are ignorant and dont want other's opinion or help in something.

but man those are the worst AFC i've seen.
Actions truly do speak louder than words....and their words mean nothing when they ***** out like that and shoot themselves in the foot.

i suggest either go clubbing yourself next time and have a good time or find yourself a new wingman that isnt AFC material. you dont need ppl like that to be around you to ruin your mood and your game.

i know a few AFC's who have the same mindset as your AFc friends. they're all talk and crap, and when time comes for them to prove it, they just back out of it like chickens

 

[CLOONEY]

Originally posted by ScrewIt
no matter what, dont try to change ppl if they desire no change.

Exactly.

 

[Crank_It_Up]

they need a sex change operation, they seem like they are already on their way to becoming a nice pair of girls.

And yes, you'll do better when you go out alone, so get used to it.

 

[CLOONEY]

Oh and as far as clubs. They are my second home, I LOVE them. I have been to clubs all around the world, personally I think the clubs in Mexico are the best. Queretaro to be precise. One Argentinian club there is phenomenal. In a club, nearly everything is based on looks, so dress how you can to stand out, grow some funky hair, and do what you can to make youself look the best you can. After that, clubs will be a breeze, you will only have problems with Jealous guys and too many sl*ts trying to pick you up.

 

[Sugarfoot]

How do these guys fair with girls of the same ethnicity? It seems to me that your friends weren't really displaying AFC behavior--they just seem uncomfortable around caucasian women.

I have a mexican-american friend: he's a funny, good-looking cat--alot of chicks like him. However, he refuses to believe that a hot, blonde, white girl could ever find him attractive. It's pretty frustrating to see a girl give your friend all the signals, and then having to see him cower in fear. Then again, when it comes to Latin chicks, this guy is SMOOTH.

It's all about what you're comfortable with. I had a talk with him about this once, and, deep down inside, he sees himself as ugly. I began to understand why: He grew up in a mostly white environment, and, through insults and intimidation, he was made to feel ashamed of his look.

Baracus posted something relating to the feeling of inferiority among mexican guys a while back on a thread you started. As a friend, you should try to understand that maybe your buddies' feelings aren't simply AFC feelings, but instead are more deep-rooted than that.


TOOTLES™

 

[ScrewIt]

it all boils down to confidence.

case closed

 

[Alexis Zorba]

One Argentinian club there is phenomenal.

You are talking about Mumbay right?

When did you come to Queretaro?

 

[sharpshooter]

Originally posted by Sugarfoot
How do these guys fair with girls of the same ethnicity? It seems to me that your friends weren't really displaying AFC behavior--they just seem uncomfortable around caucasian women.

I have a mexican-american friend: he's a funny, good-looking cat--alot of chicks like him. However, he refuses to believe that a hot, blonde, white girl could ever find him attractive. It's pretty frustrating to see a girl give your friend all the signals, and then having to see him cower in fear. Then again, when it comes to Latin chicks, this guy is SMOOTH.

It's all about what you're comfortable with. I had a talk with him about this once, and, deep down inside, he sees himself as ugly. I began to understand why: He grew up in a mostly white environment, and, through insults and intimidation, he was made to feel ashamed of his look.

Baracus posted something relating to the feeling of inferiority among mexican guys a while back on a thread you started. As a friend, you should try to understand that maybe your buddies' feelings aren't simply AFC feelings, but instead are more deep-rooted than that.


TOOTLES™

well, they were both born in new york as I was, so they speak fluent english. They just act so weird sometimes. Around latin girls they're almost the same way. If there's a hot latin girl, the first thing that would cross their minds is "she's too good"

When they talk about girls they talk about the same 2 or 3 over and over and over again, "oh i'm gonna get her next year!", "i'm gonna marry her". Honestly, I can't engage in convo with them when it comes with girls.

they're pretty afc i think.

 

[fukuy]

Lol, that reminds me of a friend of mine. All talk and crap but chickened out at the first sight of a pretty girl. Sigh, and he used to be a close mate of mine Nowadays, i dont even wanna see him no more.

 

[DJ Alejandro]

i never take in AFCs with me wherever im partying or planning to party. they always bring me down. especially when the goal is to pick up women.

which is why i take DJs-in-trainings. i took my friend and got him introduced to this site and now he's a better guy. and he has been approaching more than i do. maybe im making up excuses but ive been busy handling the women ive approached so far.

 

[ScrewIt]

This goes to show the majority of the world are infested with afc's

 

[drumr2]

If you're not a "hot" guy, you're not gonna get "hot" chicks. AFC or not.....people still need to stay within their own range.

Plain and simple!

 

[sharpshooter]

Originally posted by drumr2
If you're not a "hot" guy, you're not gonna get "hot" chicks. AFC or not.....people still need to stay within their own range.

Plain and simple!

I don't agree with that. I consider myself "hot" and I've been told this numerous times by girls.

Plus i've seen guys who would be considered "less hot" than me, with hot girls. So it's very possible, and my friends are pretty good lookin for guys. They just need a kick in the @$$.

 

[drumr2]

Well, looks are in the eyes of the beholder, too.

All I'm saying is that on a scale of 1-10 (10 being Brad Pitt/Jennifer Aniston, and 1 being Lyle Lovitt/Rosie 'O Donnell), you should stay within your mark.

I've always been a 7.....maybe a 7.5 to some chicks. Which is average, but not "HOT" considering what most hot chicks want. I do my best to stay in shape, and because of this I do look pretty good for my age. Although there are things about me that aren't so attractive that I cannot change. I can live with them, but I tend to go for chicks who also have that average good looking-ness to them, but are not "Claudia Schiffer" perfect, so to speak.

I would not dare go for a girl who was "hotter" than I am. Meaning, that if she had NO physical flaws, and was HOT by every standard of the word, she would be, in fact, TOO hot for me.

I've had a few of these girls in my time, (one I was even married to) but they clearly had ulterior motives. There were using me for one thing or another. Even if was just a night of passionate sex, it was still over with the next day. Not neccessarily a bad thing, but it proves that hotties will not "stay" with someone less hot than them, unless money and/or power are a factor. A hot woman is the most powerful force on this planet. That force cannot be contained, and they they know it. They will not settle for less, even though their pursuit of perfection in a man may be blind or in vain.

When looking for something long-term and commited, you really need to stay on your own level. If you're Brad Pitt kinda "hot", good for you...but most of us aren't, and we should all be realistic in our pursuits.


Remember...."getting" a woman and "keeping" a woman are two different things.

 

[abcd_z]

drumr2, you're mistaking cause and effect. You believe you can't keep anybody outside of your own range, and it acts as a self-fulfilling prophecy. I have seen fats guys, nerdy-looking guys, and just plain ugly guys hooking up with, and staying with, HBs. They weren't rich or powerful, but they believed they could go for it, and, lo and behold, they did! In other words, don't limit yourself to only the ones who aren't "too hot" for you.

 

[Crank_It_Up]

ya, looks are only one part of the person.. they may be great to look at but insufficient in other areas, and thus completey satisfied to hook up with somebody below them in the looks department.

 

[tactic]

your friends are the most AFCish son of a ****sucking arse-raping anus-faced morons ive ever heard about on the net

 

[gentleman193]

the "stay within your range" advice comes straight out of social psychology. the evidence is that people are happiest with a mate of about the same attractiveness. sure, you can be a beady-eyed fatboy and get the hot blonde, but she will feel entitled to walk all over you since she obviously dated "down". long run, this means misery.

of course, if you are a rich, famous, or powerful beady-eyed fat boy, then it balances out the equation, but in this case, you are not on the don juan discussion forum seeking advice with women. you are on the tonight show with jay leno and your next fukk is waiting patiently in your dressing room fixing her hair so it looks great between your legs

 

[Life-Trainee]

I haven't had luck hooking up with girls even below my standards, i.e. not perfect with few handicaps in looks. I consider myself a 7 - 8 in looks, but somehow only fat repelling chicks have EVER shown interest in me. I tried hooking up with 7s, totally regular, and nerdy chicks to no avail.